really cannot decide on next car

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i need a car for whilst im at uni.

i have 4k max.

im waiting till i graduate to buy an s500 or something. might even possibly be an M5, but thats in a year and a half.

Passats getting a touch up mechanically then being sold.

im looking at the following as a bit of fun, not bothered about fuel, if it uses tons ill just quit smoking, something i need to do anyway as i spend between £6 and £9 a day on cigs.

SUPRA mk4 3.0 manual (or auto)
celica gt4 st205 (would want a standard one)
mr2 turbo ?
328i Sport

fto ? love the sound, people say they are rubbish.

tbh i have no idea what to get ?
 
Not sure on the car, but if you quit the cigs, you could probably outright pay for your car in less than a year and a half....

Food for thought if you need a push!
 
If you have no idea what you want (recent threads with everything from 147s to big mercs would back this up) and there's nothing wrong with your exciting passat - why are you changing at all?
 
If you have no idea what you want (recent threads with everything from 147s to big mercs would back this up) and there's nothing wrong with your exciting passat - why are you changing at all?

This.

Although, if you insist on a new car, how are you planning to afford the insurance for a supra / mr2? O_O
 
Is there a reason you cant keep the passat whilst your at university? or go for something small and relaiable, like a fiesta or a little lupo if your a vw club lover!

I know what its like to want a change, personally im getting bored of driving my t4 around and miss having a car. Going to keep my van through most of the summer months then get back into something enjoyable to drive.
 
I would avoid all of those cars if I were on a tight budget, I won't even bore you with the potential eye watering costs of a GT4.
 
how are you planning to afford the insurance for a supra / mr2? O_O

They are Toyotas knocking on the door of 20 years old, not a brand new Ferrari. Shop around and I doubt insurance will be too great an issue.

Please remember that all of the cars listed above were high performance cars back in the day. They are all 15+ years old and have no doubt been used and abused, and sooner or later they'll be wanting a bit of TLC. As far as I'm concerned the success of running cars like these come entirely down to YOUR willingness to fix whatever goes wrong, so you have to ask yourself - 1) Can I fix it when something goes wrong (or at least do you want to learn)? 2) Can I survive without my car for a fair bit whilst I'm fixing it.

If you cannot see yourself getting covered in dirt and oil all over your weekend, and still being prepared to get up early on monday morning so you can catch the bus then don't bother. Parts may not be too bad in some cases, but the labour will get you. A silly amount of work on a MK2 MR2 requires the engine to be dropped, and a something as simple as a clutch change is an engine out job on a ST205 GT4 :eek:.

I'd say the supra would be the cheapest to run. 2JZGE engines are ridiculously over-engineered (Slap a thicker head gasket on and they're good for 600BHP+ :eek:), there is plenty of parts available for them on the cheap (I've seen good replacement engines go for as little as £50) and they are fairly simple to work on.
 
They are Toyotas knocking on the door of 20 years old, not a brand new Ferrari.

They are just as high a risk now as they were when new - if not more so. Infact the chances of a total loss claim on a brand new MR2 in 1991 were considerably less than they are now on your average 20 year old shed...
 
Fox what is your take on that line about the FTO? Having driven one a fair bit, and about a million other cars to compare it with.
 
I think the FTO is a genuinelly under-rated car. It gets all sorts of abuse and I cannot for the life of me understand why. Provided you get a manual MIVEC model its reasonably quick (0-60 in the high 6's), it sounds fantastic, it needs a damn good thrashing which loads of people enjoy and the handling is brilliant.

When it was new it was compared a lot to the Integra Type-R - which beat it in the driving dynamics stake. But come on, being not quite as good at handling as an Integra Type-R isnt a bad thing, would you mind if your girlfriend was almost, but not quite, as pretty as Kiera Knightly?

It's one of the best handling FWD cars I've ever driven, thats for sure - and most people who've driven them probably would agree they handle very well indeed.

So, high revving 6 cylinder engine, 200bhp, reasonably quick, a brilliant chassis - and on top of that they even look nice. Whats bad about them? The interior is cheap and nasty, they rattle more than Sainsburys and they can get quite terminal rust problems and are really noisy on a long trip but hey for the prices they command these days I cannot understand why they are not loved more.

We had ours for 7 years and in that time it broke down only once - the radiator went. And it was the easiest job ever. It really was as simple as 'remove old rad, put new one in, connect up, fill coolant'. 30 minute job.
 
I only ever measured the economy once, when I drove from Plymouth to St Albans via the A303. I managed 30.7mpg.

I'd say therefore that the economy was largely the same as my 530i - so low 20's around town, low 30's on a mixed run. Had I stuck to the Motorway I might have got a bit more.
 
I still want to drive an FTO, I've only driven a GTO -which is a totally different car :p

But I don't know anyone that owns one
 
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