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Really fed up now....

iB CoMpL3XiTy

iB CoMpL3XiTy

iB CoMpL3XiTy

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Hello fellow enthusiasts, I'm having a crap time atm

Please read this http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18252960&page=3 to get the background info

The reason I'm not carrying on with that thread is I don't know the forum's rules on reviving an old thread.

To cut a very long story short, I was getting Bluescreens caused by nvlddmkm.sys (or whatever it is) so I thought that by re-installing windows and installing two brand new XFX HD6950's would solve the issue. Nope.

Now getting bluescreens caused by atikmdag.sys

I've replaced every single component in my PC since the issue first arose and installed windows 7 coutless times and from two different CD's. All drivers and BIOS's are up to date.

my patience is wearing thin and so is my wallet, any help is much appreciated, just like to say thanks to the people that took the time to try and help me in my previous thread.


Thoughts and opinions?
 
@muggs, currently testing with just one HD6950 atm, just played abit of DoW2R (What a disappointing game, orginal was much better)

I noticed when I took the first card out that one of the GPU screws on the second card was really loose, needless to say I've tightened it now, bit concerning though. Both cards are brand new.

@Ladiesman, Sorry to read that man :( Watch some Lee evans

@Michaeljcox, Everything is at stock, has been for about 3 months, sad times.
Using a NZXT Hale90 1000W PSU, also tried a Corsair HX850, both should be plenty.
Memtested the RAM for 9 hours, also tried different RAM that I know is working perfectly as my brother is currently using it.
Everything in my PC is new, except the motherboard (although I did try a new EVGA SLI 3 board aswell) its an X58 build you can find the specs in the OP of the thread I linked to.
I don't have a PSU tester but my BIOS is reporting voltages well within safe limits.

I would hate to hazard a guess at what I've spent trying to get a working PC together.

@old gamer, I've had the issue whilst installing Windows 7 and also whilst posting, can't see it being a software issue, could be wrong though...

@spleenharvester, eh? whaaa? :P
 
Confused said:
Do you have a new HDD?

I think my old HDD is starting to introduce random errors - it's caused BSODs on multiple Windows installs with my old IP35/Q6600 combo and my P8P67/i5-2500k combo - stuck another drive in there, it's been fine for the last few days.

However - the old HDD doesn't fail any error checks!!
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Yeah, had a 500GB sammy spinpoint F3 die on me, replaced it with a 80GB OCZ Vertex 2 and a 1TB sammy F3
 
spleenharvester said:
Start menu, Right click "Computer" then properties, advanced system settings, system protection, create restore point.

To run verifier, open a command window, type "verifier" on its own without quotes, select "Create custom settings" (for code developers), Select individual settings from a full list, select all. Then "Automatically select all drivers on this computer".

Will make it slow as **** and could need a few reboots before it catches something, but if it truly is something driver related it'll catch it :) It'll sit on the loading screen for a while so don't be unnerved.

I had problems with TDR_TIMEOUT_ERRORs and random BSoDs, turned out to be PxHlpa64.sys causing I/O errors. Bizarre stuff.
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Thanks for explaining it :)

I did try this and Windows took about 5 minutes to load and then about 2-3 minutes after it loaded the screen would go completely black, but remained on, I left it like this for over an hour and decided to restore from a backup.
 
AWPC said:
Try this:

1: Disable the Windows Advanced Settings which cause a restart automatically if any error is found. Waste of time unless your a developer most errors it can recover from as the drivers allow for this anyway. Sometimes it can reboot for minor errors. Many serious driver errors are recoverable by the drivers they auto reboot without causing Windows to reboot unless you have that restart automatically setting enabled.

2: Run your Ram below spec so its much lower than the rating. Core i7 on some mobo/ram combinations are very sensitive to Ram timings & Bios settings.

3: Do not bother overclocking anything. Its a waste of time/money nowadays. You gain a few % at the expense of hardware failure/damage. Really ask yourself what real world difference do a few % make!!! Doubt you will notice (but your wallet would if it goes wrong!). Overclocking is an art & most serious ocers use water or LN2 on everything but even then they are careful & can still damage components.

4: Build the PC using 1 stick of Ram only. If possible test all Ram for errors. Just because it works on someone else PC means nothing they may have different Bios settings than you. Its possible for a faulty Ram or PCI-X slot to cause BSOD's. Try to use the minimum of hardware only. 1 gfx card etc etc then add after it becomes stable for a few hours under load from a looped benchmark run. Try to isolate components so you can see what if anything is faulty.

5: Flash the motherboard Bios to the default stock version. Do not change any settings whatsoever.

Logically if you say you have replaced everything then try to get someone else to build this for you as the chances of 2 different sets of hardware having issues are tiny unless you have done something consistently wrong.

How long have you been building PC's????
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I've disabled the restart thing, doesn't make any difference at all.

I've tried using my RAM at 1066Mhz AUTO timings and Voltage, aswell as its rated values, done this with both sets of RAM.

I don't agree with your third point, however I'm not going to get into a debate about it. Besides which like I mentioned in the OP everything has been at stock for 3 months.

I don't have anything to put a BIOS onto atm, my Brother has my USB stick, I have tried 3 different motherboard BIOS's though.

Been building PC's for over 6 years now.
 
Just tried with my RAM timings at 10-10-10-30 800Mhz 2T 1.64V Same issue still occuring
Not overclocked my 2 week old Core i7 960 or either of my HD6950's, no overclocks on any of the replacement components.

I don't like the sound of flashing my BIOS in Windows, I'll have to buy another USB stick or get mine from my brother.

I'm using a Gigabye GA-EX58-UD5

I'll be removing the watercooling for the CPU tonight and replacing it with the intel stock cooler.
 
Sorry to revive a "dead" thread, just thought I'd update.

I took my PC to a local PC repair shop and they tested it overnight and 3 hours in the morning and couldn't replicate the fault, they said it ran perfectly (no bluscreen's or signal loss).

So How can it work fine elsewhere, but not in my home. Tried the PC upstairs and downstairs, with different kettle lead's and monitor leads ETC...

Any idea's? I think I'm going crazy here XD.
 
All PC related kit (PC, Monitor, Speakers, Printer ETC...) are usually connected into a surge protector, have also tried the PC and monitor without the surge protector and get the same result.

Not sure on the quality of the surge protector... it has 10 sockets and some other things like ethernet ports etc.. lol :)
 
My home wiring is shockingly bad (bulbs going very often, my dvd tray on my surround sound opens by itself sometimes and a T.V in another room turns itself on sometimes, aswell as the Wii console.

Although saying that, I sometimes have LAN sessions at home (nerdy I know) and during those times there will be 3 other PC's in one room, pulling a total of about 1500W without issue, my PC in the same room on its own will only pull about 400W (using 1 graphics card) and has problems
So it seems my house can supply more than enough power, but the electrics are old and wired by my farther who is not an electrician.

Tried my PC in the living room, in a spare room and in my room, same result in all.
 
arc@css said:
I don't mean any offence but in light of all the other electrical problems, money and time you have spent on your rig, might it be worth getting an electrician in just to check the state of the electrics in your home? This might be the problem, because it seems you've tried everything else possible, not to mention how patient you've been throughout the whole process.
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No offence taken, its a good idea. I know a guy that lives a few doors down thats an electrician so I could ask him if he minds taking a few minutes to look at the electrics.
 
Seems to all be ok now lads, I think its a dodgy extension cable, probably the CPU 8 pin. Its the only thing I hadn't tried without until yesturday, reason being is that the entension is needed as my case is huge, got my PSU mounted outside the case (on a work surface) and the 8 pin can now reach.
So yeah been working fine for 2 days straight, hours of codbo, metro 2033, unigene, 3dmark11, crysis warhead...
I'll have some cheap almost new HD6950's that have been flashed to 6970's on the bay tomorrow if anyone is in the market for one or two.

I'm gonna keep my GTX570 beasts as I have waterblocks for them already.

Thanks for everyone's help.
 
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