Rebuilding a machine with wrong media...

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Hi all,

I've got to rebuild a machine for someone who has no media. I've got a volume license CD of XP Pro.

I don't know if theirs is OEM or Volume License, but if I Jelly Bean their machine am I likely to be able to rebuild their machine with MY CD and bang their CD Key in to install it?

If not is there somewhere I can (Legally) download an OEM copy of Windows XP Pro that will allow me to enter their Key?

Thanks,

G
 
Their key + your cd is likely to be rejected, I've had a hell of a time with this. Suppliers just don't bother shipping xp cds any more, and oem ones are hard to find. I think you'll like this link.

How to Change the Distribution Channel Version of A Windows XP CD

Note: This step can be used to check or verify the channel version of a Windows XP CD or image too. And it does not convert CD or image to royalty OEM Windows XP, which requires some OEM files to be existed.

1. Copy all content of Windows XP CD to hard disk drive, or extract Windows XP disc image to a folder.
2. Open the file \i386\setupp.ini in any text editor such as Notepad.
3. Inside the setupp.ini, there is a “Pid” parameter with [Pid] header. The Pid variable consists of 2 parts. The first 5 digits is Microsoft product code (MPC) which determines the version of Windows XP that will be installed, the last 3 digits is channel ID that determines which CD-keys or product keys that the installation wizard will accept. Some example of standard combination for Pid for various editions of Windows XP:

Windows XP RTM
Retail: 51882335 (Retail edition accepting Retail CD keys)
Volume License: 51883270 (Volume License edition accepting Volume License keys or VLK)
OEM: 82503OEM (OEM edition accepting OEM keys or COA keys)

Windows XP SP2

Retail: 55274335
Volume License: 55274270
OEM: 55277OEM

Windows XP SP3

Retail: 76487335
Volume License: 76487270
OEM: 76487OEM
4. The first 5 digits of Pid is normally stayed the same for same version of Windows XP (i.e. RTM, SP1, SP2 or SP3). Thus, only the last 3 digits of Pid needs to be modified according to example above. Generally, channel ID for retail is 335, OEM is OEM, and volume licensing is 270.
5. Use nLite or other disc imaging program to re-create or re-burn the modified Windows XP installation disc media or image.

Sadly the license key I need has rubbed off the base of my laptop, as of yet I haven't worked out how to solve that one. Still, jellybean + the above should work for you.
 
I wonder what Pid=55274640 is? That's one I found in a laptop I bought off Ebay.

From what I'm reading here I can just change it to Pid=55274OEM and it will accept the key I got off their existing install?

How does it work with specific vendors? i.e. Dell, HP etc..?
 
Sorry to ask this stupid question and MODs please feel free to delete this but if i "acquire" an OEM WinXP of the internet. Am i still breaking the law? My understanding was that its the key that holds the value. If you install WinXP onto a PC or desktop, it will give you 30 days for activation and that CD-Key is whats the most important part?
 
Sorry to ask this stupid question and MODs please feel free to delete this but if i "acquire" an OEM WinXP of the internet. Am i still breaking the law? My understanding was that its the key that holds the value. If you install WinXP onto a PC or desktop, it will give you 30 days for activation and that CD-Key is whats the most important part?

That's what I think, I definately wouldn't be asking this if I thought it was illegal. Especially as it is for a client.
 
I'm guessing your client has paid for a whole system and lost the original media CD?

And its got the XP license key on the base or on the side? Can someone verify if acquiring an OEM Image of WinXP CD is illegal to use and install?
 
I'm guessing your client has paid for a whole system and lost the original media CD?

And its got the XP license key on the base or on the side?

Yup, they claim they have no CD on site. I'm still hoping they are wrong and that I'll find the CD that came with the machine in their server room. If not I'll try this changing the PID business. If that doesn't work they can pay for new Media.
 
To be honest, changing the PID has never worked for me.

If its a branded computer it for exmaple dell, it will have a restore partition.
 
Do you know or can you discover the current key with Magical Jellybean?
If you can get the key from the old install or a coa sticker then you can install using your vlk media then change the key for the legit one with a tool microsoft supply for just this type of thing.
KeyUpdateTool_enu is the baby you need. I've previously done this on a laptop that had been installed using a student vlk. Simply run the microsoft tool and input the legal key and robert's your mothers brother.
 
I wonder what Pid=55274640 is? That's one I found in a laptop I bought off Ebay.

From what I'm reading here I can just change it to Pid=55274OEM and it will accept the key I got off their existing install?

How does it work with specific vendors? i.e. Dell, HP etc..?

640 = corporate volume licence = illegal copy..
 
Do you know or can you discover the current key with Magical Jellybean?
If you can get the key from the old install or a coa sticker then you can install using your vlk media then change the key for the legit one with a tool microsoft supply for just this type of thing.
KeyUpdateTool_enu is the baby you need. I've previously done this on a laptop that had been installed using a student vlk. Simply run the microsoft tool and input the legal key and robert's your mothers brother.

I knew you could do that, but didn't know it worked accross variants of Windows, I just assumed it mean you would use a different key of the same type.

640 = corporate volume licence = illegal copy..


Dirt.

Should have known from the state of the laptop and the state of the place I went to pick it up from. Complete scum.
 
Can you do the PID change on Win 7 too?

Got to install Win 7 on a laptop with no media and wondering if I can use a VL copy but use the CD-KEY off the laptop.
 
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