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Caporegime
If it's nothing to do with salary then why don't you want to use the agency which the recruiter has chosen?
Recruitment agency question!
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Yeah, I hate agencies. Rarely hear anything from them
You're meant to contact them, regularly. They give the jobs to either the best candidate or more often than not the people who pester them the most.
Apply as usual and see how you go. Agencies only will put you forward if you match to the spec's requirements.
Which agency is it?
BB x
Which agency is it?
BB x
Never heard of them so they must be pretty small. I would call them and strike up a conversation/relationship. Tell them what they want to hear and maybe you will be successful.
Agencies are a pita... a lot of jobs I was going for were through Michael Page - they were awful.
You just got to keep applying Im afraid - what position are you after?
BB x
Agencies are a pita... a lot of jobs I was going for were through Michael Page - they were awful.
You just got to keep applying Im afraid - what position are you after?
BB x
Caporegime
^ Do as Brighton Belle said. If the recruiter is using an agency you'll be better off just using them so call them and express your strong interest. Also try to be a bit more assertive than "try and ask them to put me through". There'll be lots of competition so you need to be seen to be really up for it.
Generally 0.
I never thought about phoning them, I thought they'd decide and send me an email saying I'm successful and if I heard nothing then they wouldn't contact me.
Well now I know what to do tomorrow.
If I apply for a job on, say, Monday. What would be the best day to phone them?
Permabanned
The reason companies use agencies is usually because they only want temps to fill whatever position for a limited period...(Staff may be on holiday..else busy period)...be it on a daily basis+ Also you're usually on the agencies payroll..not the companies...If you ended up working for this company thru the agency,....you'd also more than likely be working for other companies thru the agency when work is available.
Also...remember you're not restricted to signing on to one agency alone....should you end up going this route. Work hard at whatever company you're "posted" to. This is usually a good route to a permenant position if you show potential should a full time position show up.
Apart from that.....as everyone else said regarding trying to cut out the "middle man".
Good luck.
Also...remember you're not restricted to signing on to one agency alone....should you end up going this route. Work hard at whatever company you're "posted" to. This is usually a good route to a permenant position if you show potential should a full time position show up.
Apart from that.....as everyone else said regarding trying to cut out the "middle man".
Good luck.
Permabanned
for each job they have going.....you're just another on their list which they try & pass the work around to try & keep everyone on their books happy. A lot of jobs advertised by Agencies may just be "incentives" to get you to sign up to them.
Phone them at least twice a week. Just a phone call in the morning saying "Hi, It's Mr. Deep. Just wondering if you've got any positions I would be suitable for." or "Good Morning, Mr. Deep here, how has my application for job x going? Any word back? I'm free to meet whenever to discuss this further".
I used to work in a recruitment agency, and people would get jobs not because they were the best suitable but because a consultant had a job come in and remembered some bloke who kept calling and passed them away. We didn't have the time to scour everyone's CV to find the total best candidate. Only the very specialised jobs got the very best, and that's because there were few candidates.
You need to phone them at least twice a week, if you applied for the role on Monday then phone them Tuesday afternoon or Wednesday afternoon. Give them time to process it, but not long enough they can fill the position.
Agencies have hundreds (thousands in some cases) of people on their books, they don't have the time to individualise them. A lot of people who do jobs for agencies will do many for them. Yes, they may not be the best suited but the consultants know them and know they can work hard and will ensure repeat business for them. Once you have the foot in the door (which you do by pestering) it gets a lot easier, as long as you keep reminding them who they are.
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Most companies don't deal with a single agency most have a couple at least that they'll put a vacancy out to. So those agencies are competing.
One tactic I have used in the past is fairly simple. It makes you stand out from the crowd. But you have to be confident and up front.
Choose your own words but get the following basic message across.
Obviously XXXX (substitute the Agency's name) want to fill this vacancy, thats in your best interests, that's how you make your money, isn't it? (Pause) At the same time I want this job because its exactly what I've been looking for. (Pause) So in a way we're partners. Your role is to get me in front of the company, that it to say manage to get me an interview. My role is to turn up at that interview and convince that company that I'm the person they are looking for. But obviously I can't do my part unless you do yours first, so when can you get me an interview for?
One tactic I have used in the past is fairly simple. It makes you stand out from the crowd. But you have to be confident and up front.
Choose your own words but get the following basic message across.
Obviously XXXX (substitute the Agency's name) want to fill this vacancy, thats in your best interests, that's how you make your money, isn't it? (Pause) At the same time I want this job because its exactly what I've been looking for. (Pause) So in a way we're partners. Your role is to get me in front of the company, that it to say manage to get me an interview. My role is to turn up at that interview and convince that company that I'm the person they are looking for. But obviously I can't do my part unless you do yours first, so when can you get me an interview for?
Our company deals with agencies that specialise in our particular subject field, so we can provide them with exactly who we are looking for and let them filter out the riff raff that are applying for jobs they are clearly not suited for.
Its so much easier for a large company advertising a favourable position to do this and just pay someone to get them the best possible applicants to the interview stage. The cost incurred is most probably saved from the human resource doing it in-house instead.
Its so much easier for a large company advertising a favourable position to do this and just pay someone to get them the best possible applicants to the interview stage. The cost incurred is most probably saved from the human resource doing it in-house instead.
Maybe I'm in the minority here and I agree that a lot of agencies are a pain in the rear. But there are one or two out there that are good and I've worked with them to get a better job at a higher salary than I could have negotiated myself.
It's a game on both sides and at the outset they are clearly working in their own interest rather than yours. But once you show the agency you're a serious potential candidate then you can get them to work in your favour.
Having said that I do have quite a bit of work experience now (23 years odd) and have used agencies a lot in the past. So I'm probably a bit more used to dealing with them than the OP.
It's a game on both sides and at the outset they are clearly working in their own interest rather than yours. But once you show the agency you're a serious potential candidate then you can get them to work in your favour.
Having said that I do have quite a bit of work experience now (23 years odd) and have used agencies a lot in the past. So I'm probably a bit more used to dealing with them than the OP.
One of the problems I've found with Agencies - especially the likes of total jobs - they seem to have a habit of sexing up your CV, especially to try and fit it to the job - before forwarding it.
2-3 times I've had it in interviews where they are refering to info from "my" CV and I've been at a loss as to what they are getting at - which doesn't look good - fortunatly I always take my CV printed out along with my ROA, etc. to interviews so I've been able to set things straight.
2-3 times I've had it in interviews where they are refering to info from "my" CV and I've been at a loss as to what they are getting at - which doesn't look good - fortunatly I always take my CV printed out along with my ROA, etc. to interviews so I've been able to set things straight.
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I've had problems with this in the past, now I always ask the agency for a copy of the CV/application that they've submited. So when I interview I know exactly what the agency has said and what the employer is expecting.
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As a matter of interest, with how many agencies are you registered?Yeah, I hate agencies. Rarely hear anything from them
Have you put your CV on any Job Sites?
Why would you expect ANY agency to consider you as anything other than a CV and a number? Do you have any understanding of the business world at all?