Reference 1070 vs EVGA 980 Ti FTW

[Sipha]

Which of these would you go for currently ?

Both roughly the same price. The 980Ti probably edging out the stock 1070 in performance and quality of blower design etc. However the 1070 is better futureproofed possibly as regards to driver updates ??

Thoughts guys ?

 

[Aretak]

Neither. The KFA2 EXOC 1070 is also around the same price and a better option than either.

 

[Brazo]

There have been so many of these threads

Answer as always is 1070.

At stock speeds its noticeably faster in DX12 titles and fractionally faster in DX11. This will only increase with driver updates.

If you overclock the nuts of the 980ti it will keep up with an oc 1070 but only in DX11 titles.

1070 has better ports, better future proofing, better noise and lower TDP, so less power draw.

A second hand 980ti may be an option if you can find one cheap enough.

 

[Sipha]

But is it that clear cut.. From what I;ve seen a well OC 980 Ti such as the FTW just about beats a 1070 in most benchmarks.

Show me some results where there 1070's comes out on top, sell it to me

 

[chrcoluk]

A good binned 980ti I think will beat a poor binned 1070. I see some 980tis with higher gfx scores than my 1070 on 3dmark.

Not sure if I ever would buy a second hand card tho.

I plan to sell my old card for about £20-30 cheaper than retail and I think it will sell as other cards are selling on ebay for that pricing. So buying second hand unless you know a friend who will knock a lot off seems to only save about 10-20% over current new prices.

 

[Aretak]

A heavily-overclocked 980 Ti does edge out a 1070 in most cases in terms of raw performance overclock versus overclock, but the difference is minor and comes at the cost of a 2GB VRAM deficit and using 100W more power to do so. There's also the fact that the 1070 has improved DX12 performance and capabilities. We've already had a couple of games (namely Total Warhammer and Rise of the Tomb Raider) which have received patches to enable asynchronous compute exclusively for AMD and Pascal cards, with Maxwell left out in the cold. The performance benefits on Pascal cards are questionable anyway, but it's still an example of the swift and total focus shift away from Maxwell. Equally, only one of the two will possibly see any future general performance improvements via drivers, given Nvidia's policy of dropping the previous series like it's hot when a new one arrives.

Personally, I feel the negatives far outbalance the potential 5-10% raw framerate advantage in current DX11 titles that the 980 Ti might command (as long as you can get yours up to 1500MHz+), especially when even that gap may close as Pascal drivers mature.

 

[wellibob]

1070 for the win (long tem)

 

[dits]

1070 .... It's new

 

[Sipha]

Can someone link me to some reliable benchmark results though. All I see is a lot of anecdotal evidence so far.

Cheers

 

[Aretak]

Can someone link me to some reliable benchmark results though. All I see is a lot of anecdotal evidence so far.

Cheers

A 980 Ti at a fairly high overclock of 1450MHz versus a 1070 at a very high overclock of 2086MHz compared in 14 games. The final score is 8 to 6 in favour of the 1070, but then many 980 Tis can go 50-100MHz higher on the core, whereas fewer 1070s will go above 2086MHz (or even to that, mine tops out at ~2050MHz). The overall takeaway should be that performance is much of a muchness between the two though, which is why it's more important to consider the secondary factors like VRAM, power draw, DX12 capabilities and future driver support, where the 1070 wipes the floor with the 980 Ti across the board.

 

[chaparral]

which is why it's more important to consider the secondary factors like VRAM, power draw, DX12 capabilities and future driver support, where the 1070 wipes the floor with the 980 Ti across the board.

Also one the important things is that the GTX 1070 has DisplayPort version 1.4 And HDMI version 2.0b...........

Compared to a 980ti which only has DisplayPort version 1.2 And HDMI version 2.0

 

[razorpakk]

But is it that clear cut.. From what I;ve seen a well OC 980 Ti such as the FTW just about beats a 1070 in most benchmarks.

Show me some results where there 1070's comes out on top, sell it to me

I get it's a forum, but you should do your own research instead of having other people google it for you.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/nvidia_geforcegtx_1070_overclocking/

A 980 Ti at a fairly high overclock of 1450MHz versus a 1070 at a very high overclock of 2086MHz compared in 14 games. The final score is 8 to 6 in favour of the 1070, but then many 980 Tis can go 50-100MHz higher on the core, whereas fewer 1070s will go above 2086MHz (or even to that, mine tops out at ~2050MHz). The overall takeaway should be that performance is much of a muchness between the two though, which is why it's more important to consider the secondary factors like VRAM, power draw, DX12 capabilities and future driver support, where the 1070 wipes the floor with the 980 Ti across the board.

1450 is quite fair as a gaming clock, between the 5 different models I had only one could hold 1500 (remember how everyone was talking about their cards being stable above 1500, only to see them crash in Witcher 3). Under water, that's a different beast.

 

[MrMD]

I got a new 980ti FTW last week,felt it was a better value buy than a 1070.Would have had to pay more for a 1070 card i could WC,and pay a fair amount more for a comparable model (Custom pcb ect)

It boosted to 1430mhz on air cooling under prolonged load out the box,not messed around properly with ocing it yet,just threw 75mhz on too the core to sit at 1505mhz for now.Its under water and has a high asic(81%) hoping to get 1550/2000 for 24/7 clocks.

Looking at reference 1080 performance,not bad for £400 imo