My post turned into a very long one, so I'll divide it into two sections.
What I'm after:
A reliable wireless mouse that is a very similar shape and size to the Logitech M705. I would appreciate the button and scroll wheel features that it had, but don't need them. The only two additional buttons that i consider essential are the two back, forward buttons on the left.
I would prefer it not to have these sleep modes that require a button press to wake up - moving the mouse is a preference. Again, not essential.
Removable batteries. I'm used to mice that have 2 AA batteries that last over a year. I certainly don't want the sort that need charging regularly and have a non replaceable battery.
I don't know what this feature is called, but I actually prefer mice that can lock on when you attempt to go in a straight line rather than being in a zigzag. Even though I do gaming, I have a preference to have this.
I would rather not have a dpi switch and just have a mouse that is around 1000dpi
I'm also after a good wired / wireless keyboard.
I have a strong preference for white, mainly because they don't show dust in the same way.
Pretty quiet but hard wearing keys. W, A, S and D will get used more than the others due to gaming. I find it very irritating when certain keys sound different to the others.
A few media keys (play, pause, calculator, ext. - I can reprogram them as needed)
If wireless, I wouldn't want it to have any lights or sleep modes. Wireless keyboards can last for ages. My MK250 still has AAA batteries in dated 2017. Been going strong since 2013! It also always responds instantly, so presumably doesn't have a sleep mode.
Onto the negative experiences I've had with so many companies that make keyboards and mice.
I've had a nightmare with computer peripherals in the past 5 years. I just find it incredibly frustrating that from my experience, the build and reliability from most brands that make keyboard and mice has plummeted in recent years. Logitech are not who they used to be.
I still have my MK250 mouse and keyboard combo. The mouse with that got handled by me when i was a child and got heavily used, dropped at times and it still works just as well today, but it not the most comfortable shape. I've bought over 10 mice since then, many far more expensive than the combination of that mouse and keyboard and none have been as good in terms of reliability or build.
I've had 3 M705s. One was great for about 3 years enough to make me want to buy it again when it gave up, but logitech of course "improved" the design by removing a button, using cheaper plastic and terrible switches that gave up after little time. I then bought the M720, which was by far the most expensive mouse I've bought. The side buttons were horrible and squishy and had very little feedback and one of them didn't have an audible click. They also stopped registering with a press and hold action unless you mashed the button into the mouse. It was the same on the replacement. Unacceptable for such an expensive mouse.
Since then, I've ended up just buying cheap Tecknet mice that are an almost identical shape to the M705. Trouble with these are that they last anywhere between many years and a few months. I went back to one I currently owned while I had the M705 and thought that this would be enough, and just accepted that I lost some buttons, and I've got used to that now.
I've now had 2 of the same mice that have started bouncing the wrong way when scrolling down pages, and I've been given so many replacements by the sellers of these mice that reliability is obviously an issue.
I do quite a bit of gaming, but I'm nowhere near bothered enough to want a gaming mice. I hate those pointless lights that they for some odd reason have despite your eyes facing the monitor and hand covering them on the mouse....
It is just such a hard decision on weather to keep risking buying cheap mice, or go for something expensive. Having had such a negative experience with Logitech, spending money doesn't get my hoped up.
I've pretty much had the same experience with keyboards as well. Microsoft's old cheap 600 keyboard was great. when it started to get a bit worn several years later, i was impressed enough to buy supposedly the same model, but it had rattly, squeaky keys and I requested a replacement, and the replacement was missing one of it's feet, so they sent me another. Every one has different sounding squeaks on certain keys. The care taken to manufacturer many things these days just seems to have disappeared. I then got a Fujitsu keyboard that developed sticky keys within a year, then a cheaper cherry keyboard that was nice and quiet (as claimed) but then the well used keys started to wobble and sound like cheap clattery keyboard within just a few weeks. I even bought a premium Cherry mechanical keyboard that made an irritating buzz whenever it was illuminated. It had the cherry red silent switches, but a lack of thought put into the design as the whole metal plate resonated with every button press and there was nothing under it to dampen it. It just would have taken some simple foam....
I've gone back to using one of my microsoft 600 keyboards, but based on how nice keyboards used to be, it must still be possible to make them.... If even premium keyboard have design flaws like I experienced, I don't know what I should get.
What I'm after:
A reliable wireless mouse that is a very similar shape and size to the Logitech M705. I would appreciate the button and scroll wheel features that it had, but don't need them. The only two additional buttons that i consider essential are the two back, forward buttons on the left.
I would prefer it not to have these sleep modes that require a button press to wake up - moving the mouse is a preference. Again, not essential.
Removable batteries. I'm used to mice that have 2 AA batteries that last over a year. I certainly don't want the sort that need charging regularly and have a non replaceable battery.
I don't know what this feature is called, but I actually prefer mice that can lock on when you attempt to go in a straight line rather than being in a zigzag. Even though I do gaming, I have a preference to have this.
I would rather not have a dpi switch and just have a mouse that is around 1000dpi
I'm also after a good wired / wireless keyboard.
I have a strong preference for white, mainly because they don't show dust in the same way.
Pretty quiet but hard wearing keys. W, A, S and D will get used more than the others due to gaming. I find it very irritating when certain keys sound different to the others.
A few media keys (play, pause, calculator, ext. - I can reprogram them as needed)
If wireless, I wouldn't want it to have any lights or sleep modes. Wireless keyboards can last for ages. My MK250 still has AAA batteries in dated 2017. Been going strong since 2013! It also always responds instantly, so presumably doesn't have a sleep mode.
Onto the negative experiences I've had with so many companies that make keyboards and mice.
I've had a nightmare with computer peripherals in the past 5 years. I just find it incredibly frustrating that from my experience, the build and reliability from most brands that make keyboard and mice has plummeted in recent years. Logitech are not who they used to be.
I still have my MK250 mouse and keyboard combo. The mouse with that got handled by me when i was a child and got heavily used, dropped at times and it still works just as well today, but it not the most comfortable shape. I've bought over 10 mice since then, many far more expensive than the combination of that mouse and keyboard and none have been as good in terms of reliability or build.
I've had 3 M705s. One was great for about 3 years enough to make me want to buy it again when it gave up, but logitech of course "improved" the design by removing a button, using cheaper plastic and terrible switches that gave up after little time. I then bought the M720, which was by far the most expensive mouse I've bought. The side buttons were horrible and squishy and had very little feedback and one of them didn't have an audible click. They also stopped registering with a press and hold action unless you mashed the button into the mouse. It was the same on the replacement. Unacceptable for such an expensive mouse.
Since then, I've ended up just buying cheap Tecknet mice that are an almost identical shape to the M705. Trouble with these are that they last anywhere between many years and a few months. I went back to one I currently owned while I had the M705 and thought that this would be enough, and just accepted that I lost some buttons, and I've got used to that now.
I've now had 2 of the same mice that have started bouncing the wrong way when scrolling down pages, and I've been given so many replacements by the sellers of these mice that reliability is obviously an issue.
I do quite a bit of gaming, but I'm nowhere near bothered enough to want a gaming mice. I hate those pointless lights that they for some odd reason have despite your eyes facing the monitor and hand covering them on the mouse....
It is just such a hard decision on weather to keep risking buying cheap mice, or go for something expensive. Having had such a negative experience with Logitech, spending money doesn't get my hoped up.
I've pretty much had the same experience with keyboards as well. Microsoft's old cheap 600 keyboard was great. when it started to get a bit worn several years later, i was impressed enough to buy supposedly the same model, but it had rattly, squeaky keys and I requested a replacement, and the replacement was missing one of it's feet, so they sent me another. Every one has different sounding squeaks on certain keys. The care taken to manufacturer many things these days just seems to have disappeared. I then got a Fujitsu keyboard that developed sticky keys within a year, then a cheaper cherry keyboard that was nice and quiet (as claimed) but then the well used keys started to wobble and sound like cheap clattery keyboard within just a few weeks. I even bought a premium Cherry mechanical keyboard that made an irritating buzz whenever it was illuminated. It had the cherry red silent switches, but a lack of thought put into the design as the whole metal plate resonated with every button press and there was nothing under it to dampen it. It just would have taken some simple foam....
I've gone back to using one of my microsoft 600 keyboards, but based on how nice keyboards used to be, it must still be possible to make them.... If even premium keyboard have design flaws like I experienced, I don't know what I should get.
