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Remove throttling

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Dear OCklers,

I have a Ryzen 7950x and I was wondering if there is a way to remove any throuttling or anything that makes the CPU reduce the speed if not being used (I guess via BIOS).

Can anyone here help me and guide on how to do this in the BIOS? Thanks very much in advance.
 
Dear overlocked, I appreciate your help and inputs. The reason is I want to get maximum performance out of the cpu whilst editing in lightroom and photoshop.

I have done all possible configurations to windows and respective softwares including telling windows to use high performance with the graphic card on these two applications as well as high performance mode in the power options and none seem to work. I can notice that the fans start to spin a lot when there is more heavy duty going on which from a logical point of view means the clock is probably being throttled which in my mind can cause delays in the software by which in its nature is probably already poor in terms of reliability and performance.

Can anyone kindly tell me how can I do this, at least to try and see if I get any better performance. These softwares use more single core than multi core (Intel maybe for 10% Bette performance but at the time given the price and end of life of the current socket I have decided to go with AMD).

Thank you kindly.
 
You are being distracted by unimportant signs.
CPU reducing clock and fans slowing down does not impair performance. Modern CPUs hit peak performance milliseconds after full idle. So there is no delay.

For getting maximum performance in these applications you are already 90% there by leaving CPU stock and providing adequate cooling. After that it is chasing pennies for remaining 10%

Penny 1: curve optimizer, upping clock limits, PBO power limits
Penny 2: memory overclock/tuning
Penny 3: overkill cooling

In combination it would make CPU stay in those highest clocks more often and for longer. And reduced memory latency should help as well.

But before you go experimenting, set up a meaningful benchmark. Something that reflects your workload, to make sure you are not imagining improvement or lack of it.
And again, I predict the best you will potentially get is maybe 10%, while wasting quite a lot of time.

PS I knew the issue sounded familiar, https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...d-fan-and-performance.18973001/#post-36439736
 
Totally agree with above. You are chasing a misplaced expectation.

Just because a cpu down clocks, it doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s less responsive. At a slower clock, it’s not that a cpu switches its logic states physically slower… it’s that it does its switching less often. So a change from 0 to 1 in the logic will happen roughly at the same speed whether it’s at idle or going full pelt.


As soon as an instruction to be processed hits the core, it’ll ramp up the frequency immediately to process it, and once done, it’ll chill out and ramp down again.

Regarding your comment about fans and things. Yes the CPU and motherboard will throttle … they all do and they have to.

Any work done by the CPU needs power to complete. It takes energy to make a logic transistor switch its state. This will always generate heat in some form. As you ramp up the work, you ramp up the amount of logic transistors used, and so the amount energy pushed into the cpu increases and so does the heat.

To drive the logic to switch faster, you push it harder with more voltage.

In a CPU you are always going to reach a point where either you can’t supply enough power to push the logic to go faster, or the voltage and amps will be high enough damage the transistors, or the heat being generated reaches a point that will physically damage the transistors too.

The CPU will internally monitor this and to protect itself, will throttle.

This is why single threaded performance speeds are faster than multithreaded. A single core being worked hard can dissipate its heat into unused cooler cores around it, so can be pushed to work faster. In multi core, all the cores are creating heat so they reach saturation at lower speeds.

To be honest setting the high performance modes on the cpu /gpu is likely only making your stuff run unnecessarily, and pre -building heat unnecessarily.
 
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