Repair or bin?

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Our 'family' PC (Dell Dimension 8300) at home has beeen slowly getting more and more unreliable over the last month. Frequent random shutoffs with 'thermal event' being sighted as the problem. There's no thermal problem - it's free of dust, nothing's been moved internally since it was bought. Then the onboard NIC started to drop the connection every 5 mins.

All very odd. After a bit of googling, it appears dell (and other manufacturers) used a capacitor supplier that was making very substandard caps between April 2003 and February 2004. This PC was shipped in September 2003. These capacitors were likely to break sooner than expected, probably 3 years rather than 7.

Guess what. The board's three years old and, as per the articles i've read, the caps next to the CPU have bulged and some have leaked electrolyte. So it's new motherboard time. Dell Non-Warranty parts, being the rip off they are, want £155+VAT. Which is extortion for a fairly average 3 year old i875 motherboard.

I can't see it's worth throwing the best part of £200 at a 3 year old machine, can you? Spend approximately 3x that, and we could have a brand new machine capable of running Vista perfectly when it's out next year.

The other option is get a standard motherboard from another manufacturer... but then because of Dell's infinite wisdome in case design, I'd need a new case, PSU and heatsink - which would probably be no cheaper.

So - hands up for new PC, hands up for scavenge parts for me to use in another project another day and get a new one.
 
I'd scavenge the parts.

No way in hell would I pay those prices, for a new motherboard. :eek:
 
basmic said:
No way in hell would I pay those prices, for a new motherboard. :eek:
I'd struggle justifying paying that much for the latest greatest top of the range motherboard. This thing's fairly rubbish though! Maybe they're not in huge supply as the PC in question was discontinued quite a while back...
 
blitz2163 said:
if its a known problem id get on to dell and hassle them for a free replacement


It'll require going through the courts. Not worth it for a new motherboard.
Does a standard motherboard fit? (probably not)
I would just salvage the parts also.
 
Small claims court is £10. Represent yourself.

The other option (and one I've taken in the past) is to buy replacement capacitors and get a local TV repair guy to solder them in.

I did this with my BP6 (aaah, fond memories) when it turned out Abit had put 500uF caps on instead of 1500uF caps.

If it's dead/dying anyway, nothing to lose is there?
 
There is an MB for the 8300 for sale on the big auction site, I guess you'd have to see whether it has the same problem as yours before buying, but it's on sale for a lot less than Dell are offering.
 
Unlucky, some of the parts may still be useful like the hard drive, DVD drive and memory. Hard drive will probably be a slow 54,000 rpm one but its more space to store porn on :D

My family use the dell I bought 5 years ago and that sounds like its on it last legs but it is remarkably stable.
 
GhostRider said:
Unlucky, some of the parts may still be useful like the hard drive, DVD drive and memory. Hard drive will probably be a slow 54,000 rpm one but its more space to store porn on :D

My family use the dell I bought 5 years ago and that sounds like its on it last legs but it is remarkably stable.

me wants a 54k rpm hdd :p
 
Spill your drink and claim on house insurance:)
As if its discontinued then they will give you your full money back surley as they carn't replace it?
 
Cheers for the suggestions - whether fantastical or sensible!

I think the current plan is to replace the whole PC rather than waste good money repairing something fairly old.

The 2.4Ghz Northwood can replace the s478 Celeron in one of two other PCs (not sure which one yet!)... The big TFT can replace a smaller TFT elsewhere. The 256Mb RAM can be bunged in a server to bring it up to 1Gb. The DVD-RW can be shoved elsewhere or sold... Floppy drive in the spares box... and the HDD can either be sold, bunged in the spares box, or reused elsewhere. According to SMART status, it's in fairly good shape!

I had a plan to build a PC to use as a MIDI sound module for my keyboard (with some VST intruments). So I could use the Northwood in that, buy a mini ATX case and mini ATX motherboard and buy 1Gb RAM and hey presto - cheap PC.

Endless oppurtunities, really. We'll see.
 
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