Replace 2500k if only gaming?

craptakular · 16 Jul 2017 at 09:27

Ok, I know i have been making similar threads over the last few weeks, but I have an update:

I bought off the MM a 34" 21:9 144hz 2560x1080 monitor for a reasonable price.

I also have a GTX1080 G1 being delivered today to replace my GTX970 G1.

I have seen some benchmarks on youtube that seem to suggest that a Ryzen 1700 @ 3.9ghz could perform worse than my 2500k @ 4.5ghz purely for gaming.

Will my GTX1080 perform well with my 2500k 4.5ghz?

What does intel offer that isn't EOL that will boost my frames in CPU intensive games such as Arma 3?

robinbanks · 16 Jul 2017 at 15:41

From what i have read from other people your set up sould run nicely. You might see some dipps that could be due to the 2500k but i would have thought you would be ok. It maybe worth just trying out and seeing if its worth living with till you happy to move onto a new cpu.

Doogles · 17 Jul 2017 at 06:31

If you want to upgrade then get a BIOS update and buy a 3770k otherwise just keep the 2500k, Arma 3 isn't intensive in single player it's just because of poor servers which makes the poor frames.

mistersprinkles · 20 Jul 2017 at 16:04

craptakular said:
Ok, I know i have been making similar threads over the last few weeks, but I have an update:

I bought off the MM a 34" 21:9 144hz 2560x1080 monitor for a reasonable price.

I also have a GTX1080 G1 being delivered today to replace my GTX970 G1.

I have seen some benchmarks on youtube that seem to suggest that a Ryzen 1700 @ 3.9ghz could perform worse than my 2500k @ 4.5ghz purely for gaming.

Will my GTX1080 perform well with my 2500k 4.5ghz?

What does intel offer that isn't EOL that will boost my frames in CPU intensive games such as Arma 3?

Everything for socket 1155 is EOL. very EOL actually.

The best you can do (with a bios update prior to swapping CPU. Make sure the new bios supports Ivy Bridge!!) is a 3770K.

Honestly, any i5 (especially an old one) is a bit of a bottleneck for a 1080 in some newer titles that can use more than four threads, but you shouldn't be too hampered. Picking up a 2600K/2700K/3770K would help if you can find one very cheap.

Otherwise you should consider a full platform upgrade.

Also some people would argue that the PCIE 2.0 interface offered by your i5 is a bottleneck for a 1080 but most people would say that that won't make a huge difference, if any.

craptakular · 20 Jul 2017 at 16:49

I'm going to go ryzen 1700 as it seems a sensible platform.

mistersprinkles · 20 Jul 2017 at 17:27

Ryzen is not really that optimized for gaming and some people have reported terrible framerates with some games like WoW with Ryzen. You are still best with Intel if you are a gamer. If you do a lot of multithreaded stuff get Ryzen but for gamers the best now is 7700K or wait for Coffee Lake and get the hex core.

craptakular · 20 Jul 2017 at 18:40

I keep going around in circles.

The I7 7820x is like £500, can overclock to 4.8-5.0Ghz, but is hotter than the sun itself and I'm reading then requires a 360mm rad.

I'm reading no coffeelake until Sept - Dec 2017. I'm not sure I can wait that long.

AM4 platform is supposed to last until 2020/21, the 1700 is half the price and half as warm. Motherboards are cheaper even for a top end x370.

I want to get back into ARMA and get into Squads so a little concerned that 1700 would even be a step backwards from my 2500k. That said all I am playing currently is Battlegrounds.

mistersprinkles · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:52

At the end of the day only you can decide. Look at benchmarks comparing 7700K and 1700 in the titles you want to play. Coffee Lake will certainly be better for gaming than Ryzen with optimization where it is at the present time, but it all depends on what you want to do with your machine.

Personally I would stick with Intel for the forseeable future as far as gaming is concerned.

I'm sticking with my 4790K for a couple more years. CPU IPC improvements have been quite incremental since 2011 and I see no need to blow money on a new platform.

Psycho Sonny · 21 Jul 2017 at 16:52

3770K doesn't clock well.

there is no point in him upgrading from a 2500K @ 4.5GHZ to same chipset. it would literally be throwing away £100 for zero performance gain apart from in benchmarks for multiple cores.

why not get a 1070? the money saved from not buying a 1080 or a new cpu you can then upgrade in 2 years time.

henson0115 · 22 Jul 2017 at 10:41

mistersprinkles said:
Ryzen is not really that optimized for gaming and some people have reported terrible framerates with some games like WoW with Ryzen. You are still best with Intel if you are a gamer. If you do a lot of multithreaded stuff get Ryzen but for gamers the best now is 7700K or wait for Coffee Lake and get the hex core.

ive got a work collegue who has the 1700x and uses it for 4k gaming inlcuding mmo's and has no frame rate issues at all, completely destroys his older i5 infact.
i would swap my i7 6700k to a 1700 if it died without any hesitation, yes optimization is still not perfect but its a new platform there are always going to be teething issues.

Borsch · 22 Jul 2017 at 17:00

I see no reason to update my 2500k yet, it pulls VR nicely and everything else too. I do not play Arma, but DCS/IL2 are processor dependent and no problems there at all - highest settings on 1600 res.