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replacement MSI 6970 lighting a reference PCB

youdsy

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hia i bought a MSI 6970 twin forzr III a few months back. i had problems with it overheating. OCUK said they would have to send it back to MSI. so today I received my replacement thinking it would be another lighting but its the smaller reference designed PCB with a twin forzr III cooler on it.

im not happy about this. i payed for a lighting design so shouldn't i get one as a replacement?

looks more like a unlocked 6950 to me...
 
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Theoretically you paid for a 6970 twin frozr III so that's what they have replaced it with.

Those reboxed lightnings are not sold as lightnings.

Unless you have your numbers mixed up and they replaced a TFIII cooler with a TFII I would say there's not much you can do about it sadly. They may not have any 6970 Lightnings left to replace it with, and doing so for some was just a nice gesture.
 
ALXAndy said:
Theoretically you paid for a 6970 twin frozr III so that's what they have replaced it with.

Those reboxed lightnings are not sold as lightnings.

Unless you have your numbers mixed up and they replaced a TFIII cooler with a TFII I would say there's not much you can do about it sadly. They may not have any 6970 Lightnings left to replace it with, and doing so for some was just a nice gesture.
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i see where your coming from but i payed £250 for the card and could have easily picked up the replacement card for sub £200 and just unlocked it.
 
So they have sent you a 6950?

I'm confused. What exactly is it they have sent you as a replacement?

1. A 6950 TFIII power edition (which is the one that sometimes can be unlocked)

2. A 6970 reference with a TFIII cooler on?

Or something different?

As I said, you bought a card listed for sale as a 6970 Twin Frozr III. At no point does it point out that it is a reboxed Lightning card. Not only that, but it isn't clocked the same as a Lightning either. It comes clocked to 880mhz instead of the default 940 for the Lightning.

If MSI have sent you a 6970 reference with a Twin Frozr III cooler on and the default 880mhz clock then I'm sorry to say that they have replaced like for like.

Now if OCUK had sold it as a 6970 Lightning or made any mention that it was a Lightning card then I would sympathise with you.

Sending people Lightnings as a replacement was an expensive gesture. The Lightning cost a good £50 more than the one they were selling as a 6970 TFIII.
 
quote taken from 6970 twin forzr III

"This special Twin Frozr III Edition utilises the same PCB from the flagship lightning cards and as such has both performance and silent modes. With the amazing Twin Frozr III cooler for near silent operation, cooler running and great overclocking potential. There is no better value 6970 on the market!"

states in there that it uses lightning PCB....
 
youdsy said:
cheers m8. i just wanted to see if i had a case before i contacted either of them.

do you think i should bother or not?
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I guess it depends on what sort of a person you are.

Looking at it reasonably they have sent you a card that will do (if it is a 6970 reference PCB with a TFIII cooler on) what your old one did. TBH? I would be surprised if the Lightning, power stages and fancy PCB and all can overclock more than a regular PCB. The issue with overclocking a 6970 doesn't fall on the power stages unlike other Lightning models (480 for example).

The 6970 core is a poor clocker when compared to say, a GTX 480. That is just down to the cores on them and the fact AMD probably had to ramp them really high to get them competing with the 570.

So theoretically you don't need that huge PCB, only the cooler for quieter operation.

If you bought a 6970 and were happy with it and was going to keep it? then yes, being reasonable about it they have replaced it with a card that will easily do what the one you sent back did.

However, you do have a point about the PCB. If at any point OCUK used that PCB to their advantage then you could argue the toss. Mind you, I have to admit that taking that attitude would be rather unreasonable. I know the Lightning has a nice big PCB, but at the end of the day as I said it does nothing the stock one does not.

Personally speaking I would just be glad I have a working card tbh.
 
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