Request For Help - Kit Car Build - Computer Artist Needed

richardirv · 12 Nov 2012 at 10:13

As the title suggests, I am in desperate need for someone or someone who knows someone (hehe) that might be able to help with a sports/super car car project in the CAD & Computer design area.

I can't really show any images on the internet as they need to be kept secret, the car in question is built but the body is all wood, very well made, looks stunning. Its not what you would normally expect from a kit car type thing.

This car is not really a kit car it is the prototype for a possible kit car range and has been built from the ground up with only minimal components used from other vehicles. The person in question is at a stage were he needs real help from someone who can create computer image's of the car on computer to be able to get a website up and running and then to be able to go to companies with decent visuals who may be able to help fund the production of the bodywork etc.

He is looking to put a website together similar to this http://www.shayton.eu/ for publicity.

Hope this makes sense, if anyone has anything to offer please get in touch. Unfortunately there wouldn't me much in the way of a payment for doing this but if the project gets off the ground, the drawings would be their own property and could subsequently worth something.

richardirv · 13 Nov 2012 at 20:06

Don't like to bump, but need to get this seen by as many as possible!

Skeeter · 13 Nov 2012 at 20:43

Is cloudy still about? He built his own kit car so is definitely worth chatting too.

R B Customs · 13 Nov 2012 at 21:17

just checking... what are your expectations of the final result? I'm a CG artist and I'm just giving you a heads-up that you will find it difficult to get anyone to do this for you as producing an entirly new car and taking it through the whole process from modeling to rendering is quite a long process.

richardirv · 19 Nov 2012 at 09:27

R B Customs said:
just checking... what are your expectations of the final result? I'm a CG artist and I'm just giving you a heads-up that you will find it difficult to get anyone to do this for you as producing an entirly new car and taking it through the whole process from modeling to rendering is quite a long process.

Its not me that needs the help its a family member. He is a perfectionist and it needs to look as real as possible basically. As the prototype only has wood as the body it can't be used. It needs to stay hidden. The images produced need to look as if the car is finished. If you see the images of Lee Nobles first car you will understand that if that image would have got out, Noble probably wouldn't exist now. Saying that the car in question looks 10 times the car Lee Noble produced at the beginning.

richardirv · 19 Nov 2012 at 09:36

Just to say, the people that have attempted to produced images for him so far have only been using photo's and working in photoshop to overlay paint etc. Unfortunately it just doesn't cut it.

It wouldn't be out the question if someone had some serious skills in photoshop but I would think the best way it to replicate the car in 3d and then renders can be made in any angle plus reflections can be added for realism.

I know this is a massive ask for someone and I know these skills usually come at a cost. Thats not to say there would not be any payment in the future if the brand makes it.

All it takes is someone to believe in the design and their images could be worth allot of money and there would be good prospects in the future.

He is based in Leicester so someone local would be good but not essential.

Any help or advice would be much appreciated.

Jono · 19 Nov 2012 at 10:11

How urgent is this? (I haven't read the thread very well).

richardirv · 19 Nov 2012 at 10:21

Jono said:
How urgent is this? (I haven't read the thread very well).

Erm, I think if he got someone on board that could really do it justice, he would allow what ever time was necessary although they would need to show that work is progressing at a decent rate, at the moment to project has stopped dead as he can't go any further with it until he has a decent portfolio and website.

The only other thing I would stress is that he will want someone who won't let him down, someone he can trust who won't leak the images on the internet etc.

A number of people have started with good intentions and then let him down and I don't want that to happen again, he deserves more. He is a really talented bloke, he has built this car from the ground up and its stunning to see what he has achieved, it would be a real shame if he can't get any further as he just can't afford to finish it without investment.

Firestar_3x · 19 Nov 2012 at 10:26

Sounds like a huge ask to me, the only way he's going to get someone good enough and committed to the project is to offer them shares in the company, % cut of future sales or payment for any work done, I’d want a contract from the onset, nothing in life is free, and no one is going to do work for free for someone else to potentially get rich.

If he truly believes the product is good enough for market he would find the money to make it happen.

But good luck with the search.

Skeeter · 19 Nov 2012 at 10:34

You want someone you will 'trust' to not leak any images? Not going to happen. You will need a legal contract to enforce that, and if your doing that your going to need to pay someone.

richardirv · 19 Nov 2012 at 10:37

Firestar_3x said:
Sounds like a huge ask to me, the only way he's going to get someone good enough and committed to the project is to offer them shares in the company, % cut of future sales or payment for any work done, I’d want a contract from the onset, nothing in life is free, and no one is going to do work for free for someone else to potentially get rich.

If he truly believes the product is good enough for market he would find the money to make it happen.

But good luck in with the search.

I agree fella, it is a massive ask, but if you don't try...

I'm sure he would be able to pay for the work but unfortunately it would probably be afterwards if the company takes off. There could even be a job there for in the future. We just don't know at this stage. I just wish I could post a pic up here, that would really get people interested but I can't.

About finding the money if you believe, yes partially true but he has a budget and he's a sensible bloke, he believes in it but is not prepared to risk his home for it. There are limits. He has put as much money into it as possible and he is so close to a finished car. The problem is if he were to pay for the moulds & production of the fibre glass body it would to 10k + and he just doesn't have that in the budget.

If he can gather a portfolio of images of a finished version of the car along with a website, he plans to take his plans to small car manufactures like Ultima, Stratus Hawk, Gardner Douglas, Caterham, Noble and see if they would be interested in producing the body etc.

Jonnycoupe · 19 Nov 2012 at 11:29

Sounds like you could do with 2 people?

One to build the car in a 3D enviromenent and another more familiar with lighthing effects and surfacing to take the model to phote-realism?

Although saying that the images are proabably enough to start with for a photo shop effort but its much more difficult to get the reflections correct.

richardirv · 19 Nov 2012 at 11:33

Yeah 2 would be great but Its difficult enough finding one reliable person at the moment. hehe

Getting the car laser scanned would be help I think but again, that doesn't come for free or even cheap.

Jonnycoupe · 19 Nov 2012 at 11:51

What I meant is the skillsets are usually quite seperate, it would probably be easier to find 2 people rather than one l33t guy.

richardirv · 19 Nov 2012 at 12:09

Jonnycoupe said:
What I meant is the skillsets are usually quite seperate, it would probably be easier to find 2 people rather than one l33t guy.

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong if we find someone that can model a car in 3d etc but has no skills in web design its not like he wouldn't be interested.

Dup · 19 Nov 2012 at 12:11

He meant more rendering. Someone to model it, someone to render it as most pros specialise in one or the other and collaborate.

I have 3D skills, I could attempt the modelling side depending on the level of complexity involved, but I simply have very little computer access in my free time due to my living arrangements and won't do until the new year, otherwise I would be all over this.

richardirv · 19 Nov 2012 at 12:15

Dup said:
He meant more rendering. Someone to model it, someone to render it as most pros specialise in one or the other and collaborate.

I have 3D skills, I could attempt the modelling side depending on the level of complexity involved, but I simply have very little computer access in my free time due to my living arrangements and won't do until the new year, otherwise I would be all over this.

Oh I see, I kind of thought that once the raw components are created in 3d the software would be able to render images without too much trouble. I do have very limited knowledge in 3d design software though.

Shame you don't have the computer resources at the moment though..