res settings for HDTV in 360

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Hi Guys, i have had my HDTV set to 720p in the XBOX 360 settings for a while now and thought i would fiddle around a bit and noticed the optimal resolution setting, so i tried that which sets the 360 to the native res of the TV and the pic seems to be better than in the HDTV settings also i get a bit extra widescreen on either side! My tv is a Sony KDL-D3000 32inch and am connected through HDMI. I have never heard much about people mentioning this setting but it seems to improve the pic quality in my setup not ried many different games yet.

Does anybody else use this setting? tried this setting?
 
Hmm I don't understand, that TV is 1366x768 resolution, and you can only select 720p, 1080p...etc through HDMI, so surely the optimal setting will simply put it at 720p?
 
when i go to display settings in the 360 dashboard i have a setting at the top that says optimal resolution then 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p i am not sure it was there when i first got the Xbox but it is there now and the pic is a lot better on this setting also motion is smoother as i think it is running in 60hz not 50hz that it runs at on 720p etc

It is connected through HDMI also 720p is not the native res it is 1280x720 so i can understand why it would look better in this setting
 
i don't think it is because it says the resolution is 1366x768 which is none of the HDTV Resolutions so it must just be a setting to set the 360 to the native res of the TV

Anyhoo it makes the pic clearer and sharper etc so i am happy with it
 
If I put it on optimal it definitely sets it to 1360*768 60hz.

It's not a placebo. FACT.
If you have your PC hooked up to it then it's that res.

As far as I know, if you use 720p on a 1366x768 display, with a console, it actually upscales it slightly but does it in a way it's been compensated for during development. Screenshots come out at 720p.
 
No, the 360 has an independent upscaler chip so nothing is compromised. via VGA or HDMI on optimal settings if your TV supports it you can get 1:1 pixel mapping at 1360*768 and often this will be superior to the TVs upscaling technology as the 360 has "intelligence" about the content it is upscaling.

e.g. the dash is actually rendered at 1360*768 if that option is chosen iirc, although you are right that games will be upscaled from 720p.
 
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No, the 360 has an independent upscaler chip so nothing is compromised. via VGA or HDMI on optimal settings if your TV supports it you can get 1:1 pixel mapping at 1366*768 and often this will be superior to the TVs upscaling technology as the 360 has "intelligence" about the content it is upscaling.
Aye sorry, I should've been more specific. I didn't mean the TV upscaling, but the 360. :)

Just wanted to point out that while you do get a 1366x768 image the 360 games are still 720p.

The whole 1366x768 thing bugs me, by the way. I don't know why 720p LCDs don't simply have a native resolution of 1280x720, since it can be such a total pain in the bum when I want to play PC games on my TV because I have to do a lot of stupid fiddling around in my drivers to get that resolution. :(
 
Aye sorry, I should've been more specific. I didn't mean the TV upscaling, but the 360. :)

Just wanted to point out that while you do get a 1366x768 image the 360 games are still 720p.

The whole 1366x768 thing bugs me, by the way. I don't know why 720p LCDs don't simply have a native resolution of 1280x720, since it can be such a total pain in the bum when I want to play PC games on my TV because I have to do a lot of stupid fiddling around in my drivers to get that resolution. :(

What people don't seem to understand is that if your TV accepts it and "tells" the 360 that 1360*768 is the optimal resolution then the 360 will output that via HDMI.

I agree with the stupid resolutions on 720p TVs. 1280*720 would be FAR sharper than being upscaled to 1366*768.
 
I agree with the stupid resolutions on 720p TVs. 1280*720 would be FAR sharper than being upscaled to 1366*768.
Aye. This is one thing that put me off buying a 720p TV for so long but, when I weighed the pros and cons, I realised that most of the content I would be using with my TV would be upscaled to 1080p anyway instead of natively displayed at that resolution, so I decided to save the money instead.
 
What people don't seem to understand is that if your TV accepts it and "tells" the 360 that 1360*768 is the optimal resolution then the 360 will output that via HDMI.

Do you have any proof of this? I mean if it is possible to output those resolutions via HDMI why on earth aren't they selectable in the display settings?
 
Do you have any proof of this? I mean if it is possible to output those resolutions via HDMI why on earth aren't they selectable in the display settings?
Because the TV makers are idiots and 1366x768 is not a standard resolution like 720p. :(

You would think the TV makers of all people would've been able to tell the difference.
 
Actually it seems it is true according to avforums, although for some TV's they say it's actually better to select 720p.

From a thread on avforums:
HDMI - XBOX 360 Elite - High Definition - 720p (1080i will cause motion blur):
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These settings are now prefered over the 'Optimal Resolution' dashboard setting of 1360x768. The colour depth is greater, richer and theres more options available when using the 720p resolution. Plus with the 1360 resolution you can't play 50hz only xbox games, with 720p you can.
 
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Actually it seems it is true according to avforums, although for some TV's they say it's actually better to select 720p.
Aye, and while I don't know the ins-and-outs of that I think I have experienced it.

If I have my TV connected to my PC, which it is permanently for watching downloaded TV/film or my DVDs, then I have to set it at 1366x768 as it's the native resolution of the TV. If I do this however, without tweaking the timings and other settings to absolute perfection, the display will be corrupted (blurry or off-centre with a funny black border).

If I could simply select 1280x720 in my display drivers this would not be an issue, but that doesn't seem to work for some odd reason. The image has to be 1366x768 or upscaled by seperate hardware (like a games console).

Edit: Using my PC as the source for the display with my TV 1280x720 does not work at all, 1360x768 does but it's not the native resolution (six pixels missing, so there is a slight blur), and 1366x768 only works with a massive amount of tweaking. Honestly, who designed these TVs? :(
 
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Actually it seems it is true according to avforums, although for some TV's they say it's actually better to select 720p.

From a thread on avforums:

I get identical colours via 1360*768 and 720p, also my 360 reverts to 480p 50hz for XBox 1 games that require 50hz. Win-win.

It's why I chose an LG TV actually as they natively support a huge range of PC resolutions via HDMI, DVI and VGA without any tweaking or messing around. It makes getting the holy grail of 1:1 mapping dead easy whether it's from a console or PC :)
 
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