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Restert loop after over clock of non-k cpu.

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I changed the BLCK settings and my computer works fine once it is up and running... I Just started up my computer the next day and it was in a restart loop until I held down the power button to switch it off during the process and it started okay.

I changed the BLCK from auto to manual and then set it at 106.0 and this started happening so I changed it to 105.0 and it only does it twice before starting up on its own so obviously something in my computer doesn't like the over clock, oh well, I just set the BLCK settings back to default be fore shutting down the computer for the night and when I start it back I up I reset the computer to set the BLCK settings to desired numbers when I am gaming.

If anyone has any tips apart from not increasing the BLCK numbers? If not no worries and thank you.
 
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I've just taken the leap from a 4770K to a Ryzen 2700X. I was going to hold out for another year or so, but I got that itch...

The 8700 is a decent step-up, how much depends on what you use your rig for. It'll certainly do you for the next few years regardless.
I'd recommend the K version though, overclocking is surprisingly easy- many folks here could talk you through it in just a few minutes. Gone are the days when you could bork a chip with a wrong setting. (Probably still possible, but much, much more difficult. There are safeguards built in to the chips now.).

I'll also add, that with the release of the new Ryzens, there's potential for some discounts on Intel chips. Only potential, mind. Don't quote me on that...
 
I would probably buy a whole new case as well and I'm not sure but maybe have to buy a new motherbooard, I'll have to check what I have, it's an Asus and about 4 years old and was fitted with the current CPU, the only thing I've upgraded was the GPU to a 1070.

I've read a bit into the turbo too and it sounds impressive plus the fact that the CPU in general is just fast.
 
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Yes, you will need a new motherboard. Both socket and chipset have changed!
And, depressingly, new RAM too- we're on DDR4 now, whereas your 4790 uses DDR3. Again, the sockets are different so they are not compatible. The price of RAM is a little daft at the moment... So for a 8700 with 16GB and a decent mobo, you're looking at at least five hundred quid. Less if you can make do with 8GB...

If you really don't want to OC, it is a fast chip anyway. To be fair, I'm actually pretty happy with how my 4770K is holding up. Didn't really need to upgrade, just wanted to for shiny shiny reasons. Should've blown the cash on a new GPU really, but what's done is done!
If your rig does what you need it to (should be a pretty decent gaming setup with a 1070) maybe hold on a bit longer and see what comes along? The 4790, while a bit long in the tooth now, is still a fantastic piece of kit.
If you really want to upgrade, it may be worth holding off for just a while to see if the godforsaken RAM prices drop a bit. My 16GB of 3200MHz DDR4 was only a tenner cheaper than the motherboard...
 
Read this https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8dm0ie/ryzen_2700x_and_windows_10_game_mode_allows_for/

The new Ryzen chips do not need to be manually overclocked, if your going to be using a stock i7 8700 non K Variant, then a Stock 2700X is going to give you the same if not better performance out of the box, invest in a decent cooler. Read the Anandtech and Techpowerup Reviews of the 2700x, they are showing how stock 2700x vs Stock 8700 perform in current real world scenarios (Meltdown / Spectre patches applied etc).

Youd be crazy picking a stock Intel chip over that 2700x right now imho.
 
Incidentally its come to light a lot of the current reviewers are not putting all the Spectre / Meltdown patches on their test rigs while benchmarking, or have not rebenched since the latest patch fixes for these exploits. Intel is getting a hammering with these patches.

Anandtech and Techpowerup and Computerbase are probably more realistic impressions now of what to expect between chips on fully patched rigs etc.
 
elrasho said:
Just what I needed to know :)
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Yes but I have the non K version which is 3.6 to 4ghz and are those results before overclocking? I guess they are.

My motherboard is an Asus z97k by the way.

The reason I was thinking of upgrading was because I play some very cpu intensive games and Jurassic World Evolution is out soon, they made Planet Coaster and that game would get some very low fps for all users when the park was full and big.
 
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rn2 said:
I would probably buy a whole new case as well and I'm not sure but maybe have to buy a new motherbooard
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At least every second new Intel CPU "generation" needs new motherboards regardless that actual changes in CPU are minimal/non-existing.
AMD is lot better in that with current AM4 going to be used up to 2020, with CPU architecture upgrade of Zen2 in next winter fitting to it along with its tweak year later.


DoneADougalOnSofa said:
The 8700 is a decent step-up, how much depends on what you use your rig for. It'll certainly do you for the next few years regardless.
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Non-K 8700 won't be giving that much of those highest boost clocks in any motherboard even remotely following Intel's specified 65W TDP for CPU.

And if Intel is going to release 8 core Coffe Lake they're going to have to drop base clocks/multi core boosts notably or TDP goes through roof.
 
EsaT said:
At least every second new Intel CPU "generation" needs new motherboards regardless that actual changes in CPU are minimal/non-existing.
AMD is lot better in that with current AM4 going to be used up to 2020, with CPU architecture upgrade of Zen2 in next winter fitting to it along with its tweak year later.


Non-K 8700 won't be giving that much of those highest boost clocks in any motherboard even remotely following Intel's specified 65W TDP for CPU.

And if Intel is going to release 8 core Coffe Lake they're going to have to drop base clocks/multi core boosts notably or TDP goes through roof.
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So basically I won't see the stock boost clock on an 8700k because of the temps?

Anyway it would seem that it would mount up to £600 after updating the motherboard and case too so probably not worth it for an extra 10 fps lol.
 
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rn2 said:
So basically I won't see the stock boost clock on an 8700k because of the temps?

Anyway it would seem that it would mount up to £600 after updating the motherboard and case too so probably not worth it for an extra 10 fps lol.
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With higher TDP 8700K can keep boost clocks lot better than 8700 if cooler is good.
(any stock Intel heatsink wouldn't be good)
But with 4790 having hyperthreading it certainly isn't that big problem in most of the games.
 
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Yes but I have the non K version which is 3.6 to 4ghz and are those results before overclocking? I guess they are.

My motherboard is an Asus z97k by the way.

The reason I was thinking of upgrading was because I play some very cpu intensive games and Jurassic World Evolution is out soon, they made Planet Coaster and that game would get some very low fps for all users when the park was full and big.
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I’m running my non K 4790 at 4.1Ghz on all cores.
Bios mod + increased base clock.
But that’s still not enough to always stay above 60fps in some games.
 
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I’m running my non K 4790 at 4.1Ghz on all cores.
Bios mod + increased base clock.
But that’s still not enough to always stay above 60fps in some games.
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has it made any noticeable difference?
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
If I had a Core i7 4790K I would probably wait for Ryzen 3 and whatever Intel has out next year TBH.
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I agree but mostly also because the cost with a new case and motherboard completely out weighs the performance boost. Plus it's the non k.
 
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Asus Z87/Z97 ROG boards, and perhaps others have a feature called "Multi-core Enhancement" which overrides the stock Intel settings and boosts all cores to the CPUs maximum rated frequency. I have a i7-4790K on a VII Ranger and an i3-4330 on VI Hero and the feature works on both, at the cost of increased heat and power consumption.
 
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Asus Z87/Z97 ROG boards, and perhaps others have a feature called "Multi-core Enhancement" which overrides the stock Intel settings and boosts all cores to the CPUs maximum rated frequency. I have a i7-4790K on a VII Ranger and an i3-4330 on VI Hero and the feature works on both, at the cost of increased heat and power consumption.
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No Intel stopped it at some point on non K CPUs. Max all core turbo on 4790 can be increased to 3.8 from 3.6 where’s single core turbo is 4Ghz.
With bios mod (replacing CPU microcode with old one) all core turbo can be increased to single core turbo so 4Ghz.
i3 CPUs don’t even have turbo so it won’t make any difference at all so I don’t know how your i3-4330 can benefit in any way.
 
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