Rifle/sub question
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In the case of base guarding, you are primarily stopping vechile threats from entering the area. If someone shoots you from 400 yards, then bad luck, but the base is still safe. If they miss, you retreat and sound alarm and chaps with bigger guns come running.
You need someone manouverably, and swift to sling, a high rate of fire helps too.
You need someone manouverably, and swift to sling, a high rate of fire helps too.
Because its not very useful to your average soldier who doesn't want to be slowed and exposed in battle?
If someones sniping you from a distance its either a distraction or precursor to an all out assault anyhow.
Why is everyone in here talking like they have actual genuine real experience with any of the guns mentioned outside of PC gaming? Am I missing the joke? How many of you have even fired any of the guns you're talking about? Even once? Someone get 5 minutes on the range in Texas with an M4 and now they know about Assault rifles?
I have fired the L85 (on ranges only) and its actually quite accurate
Also some automatic pistols (M92, P226)(again on ranges)
I have examined (but not fired) AK47, Thompson, Steyr AUG, MP5, M16(not sure the variant), the AK amazed me with how light it was and the Thompson with how heavy
I have also examined some home made **** (seriously!!)Crossbows
and 85lb draw recurve bows (complete with sights and stabilisers)
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the Offensive Individual Combat Weapon project was canceled years ago.
in the end it was too heavy and too expensive.
Exactly: suitable weapon = issued weapon.
Most fun I've ever had on a shoot was the All Arms Air Defence with the old LMG on a louch pole, now that would be fun for the sentry!
Sentries will operate as a team - ideally you have a multi layered approach, as someone posted before - the point man and/or patrollers, will be working in short range distances. Next is would be the fast response team who will be engaging in whatever distances you have for line of sight. Finally you have your covering fire, whether that is volume of an MG or precision sniper depends on what your target threat will be.
The P90 is a nice weapon, but you won't see many, as it is stupidly expensive in comparison to the volume pricing of the MP5.
The P90 is a nice weapon, but you won't see many, as it is stupidly expensive in comparison to the volume pricing of the MP5.
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Please carry on sitting in your hut while I fetch my .50 cal AMR and maybe a thermal scopebut yeah the likelyhood of such a situation is incredibly slim. Similiarly you could use a javelin, mortar or milan jobby on the poor gate guard.
You do realise that a thermal scope cant even see though a sheet of glass never mind a wall? Your javelin, mortar or milan attack on the sentry would be pointless as the sentry is there to protect what he is guarding. By attacking the sentry you are fullfilling his role, which is to be the first line of defence, to delay an attack and give warning of an attack. So in truth it doesn't realy matter which firearm a senty in using so long as he is alert. Alertness is the sentry's real weapon.
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I'm off shooting tomorrow with the gun club. 800 metre range and I am trying out the AI L96 which I am told can castrate a gnat at 600m.
As for the OP, a P90 may well work as a sentry weapon but it is essentially an SMG so your range is very limited. It will be next to useless for counter-fire to a target at range.
As for the OP, a P90 may well work as a sentry weapon but it is essentially an SMG so your range is very limited. It will be next to useless for counter-fire to a target at range.
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Turns out it was a 300m range but still good fun.
Got to blat off a few rounds on an ex-police Steyr model 69 .308 sniper rifle, a .223 rifle loosely based on the M16 ( limited to single shot ) and an old Mosin Nagant bolt action rifle used by Soviet snipers during WWII which has left a decent bruise. The old 7.62x54 round that the Nagant fires has a fdair old kick on it.
Got to blat off a few rounds on an ex-police Steyr model 69 .308 sniper rifle, a .223 rifle loosely based on the M16 ( limited to single shot ) and an old Mosin Nagant bolt action rifle used by Soviet snipers during WWII which has left a decent bruise. The old 7.62x54 round that the Nagant fires has a fdair old kick on it.
lucky you
i've not had access to a range for quite some time actually, the P90's lethal all the way out to 200 meters or more, which is far longer than the range of the puny 9x19mm used in almost all MP5s. additionally, the P90 is a PDW, not a submachine gun, they're for different purposes. furthermore, the P90 is made by FN and the MP5 is made by H&K, two entirely separate companies, so the P90 isn't replacing the MP5 in the slightest.
in actual fact, the UMP was intended to replace the MP5 because it's cheaper, lighter, more accurate and fires a more modern round (.40S&W)
lastly, faster rate of fire is a bad thing, it means that you have more recoil (so less accuracy) and you waste more ammo faster.
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aa12 or just call in ac130 or chopper gunner 
or just call in ac130 or chopper gunner
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the AK amazed me with how light it was and the Thompson with how heavy
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Sentry firepower
I was in the ta in the early 80's In those days we were able to shoot everything fom a 9mm pistol up to a 5.5 inch artillery had a go with the early version of the sa 80 so can compare to the FN the problem with these, as they found out in Ireland was it will go through a house no problem, hence the police are mostly limited to lower velocity wepons.
I was in the ta in the early 80's In those days we were able to shoot everything fom a 9mm pistol up to a 5.5 inch artillery
had a go with the early version of the sa 80 so can compare to the FN the problem with these, as they found out in Ireland was it will go through a house no problem, hence the police are mostly limited to lower velocity wepons.
really??? when it comes to the l85a2 only stoppages i ever suffer from are due to damaged magazines mainly the lips at the top.
if maintained and prepped properly the rifle itself is very reliable.
and as far as reloading goes, never had any issues
in my experience the MAJORITY but not all of the L85 and L86 series unreliability issues come down to neglect.
but it is fair to say that its not as squaddy proof as other similar weapons systems, and it is relatively heavy.
Thats why I said maybe... on the thermal scope - they are good for some things rubbish for others.
Yeah hes fulfilled his role... and just as dead.
I'm also puzzled why everyones talking like the P90 is weak and short range - sure its no assault rifle - but deffinatly can do some damage at 400feet, with the right rounds will punch through body armor like butter at close range and puts up a massive volume of fire.
UMP would be a great choice if it wasn't for the rather lacking armor penetration at range, great for mobility and stopping power against unarmored targets.
EDIT: On the last note as a sentry your more likely to put down supressing fire to get to cover and let the big boys engage if the enemy is at range and at short range you want to stop the target ASAP where aiming is less of an issue.
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