Rig specs for a total noob

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I’m a *total noob* to rig building, so I’ve been reading various forums trying to figure out specs for a decent rig. I’ll be playing Black Shark, Lock On, FSX and probably some Crysis and CoD. I’d like to buy something that has some decent potential for OC-ing and upgrading in the future but also performs really well out of the box. My initial idea was to buy the top of the range everything and worry about the overdraft later but it seems that buying slightly lower spec and OC-ing represents better value. How about: -

Intel Core i7 920 2.66Ghz (Nehalem) (Socket LGA1366) - Retail £264.49
Asus P6T Deluxe Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard £252.99
Corsair 6GB DDR3 XMS3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz (3x2GB) Triple Channel DDR3 (TR3X6G1600C9) £155.24
BFG GeForce GTX 260 OCX MAXCORE 896MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (BFGEGTX260MC8960CXE) £264.49
Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB 10000RPM SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (WD3000HLFS) £229.99
Corsair TX 750W ATX2.2 SLI Compliant PSU £103.49
NZXT Rogue Crafted Series Micro-ATX Case - Silver/Blue (No PSU) £100.04
Samsung SH-S223Q/RSMN 22x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer Lightscribe ReWriter (Beige/Black/Silver) - Retail £21.84
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE 7.1 Sound Card - OEM (30SB057000000) £21.84
Samsung SM2693HM 26" Widescreen LCD Monitor (LS26KIEEFV/EDC) £344.99
Total £ 1,759.39 (bloody hell it adds up to a lot)

A few questions: -

1) Should I go for an i7 920 or something a little cheaper like a Q6600. From what I’ve read it looks like for a total new build the i7 920 is good value with plenty of OC-ing potential. 940/965 wasted cash?

2) Similarly – although the GTX 260 isn’t top of the line, it seems like decent value compared to the 280/295. Is there a big difference for what I’m going to be using it for? Also, is the particular GTX 260 I’ve picked out the best value, or should I go for a slightly cheaper one and OC myself? Or are 280/295 a better deal?

3) What’s the difference between the Asus P6T (£206.99) and the Asus P6T Deluxe (£252.99)? Am I going to notice much difference?

4) How about RAM? Is this too fast or slow for the system? What’s the best value?

5) Is the NZXT case any good and/or big enough for the GTX 260? I want something small but ideally able to fit SLI if I need/want to upgrade to dual (or more?) 260’s at some point.

6) VelociRaptor – I wonder if it’s worth going for a cheaper/slower 7200RPM (SpinPoint F1 320GB is only £40) drive now and then upgrading to a SSD when the prices come down later this year/next year?

7) Do I need anything else? For example, a cooling fan, and if so what’s a good one? I looked at water cooling but I think it’s a bit beyond my skill level/OC-ing needs right now.

8) Is the system I’ve spec’d out total junk or am I heading along the right path? If I could get the total cost down a bit it’d help – any suggestions welcomed.

Thanks for your time and apologies for being a total noob.

Cheers,
Jimbo
 
i'd drop the VelociRaptor for a samsung f1 1tb, partition it off for few gb for the o/s rest for other use.

i'd consider dropping the 260 to a 4870 1gb, mobo wise maybe have a look at the gigabytes.

not sure of the value of the 26" screen over a 24".
 
Same as above, probably better with a good 24" and save yourself some £. Also save money and get a 7200rpm hard drive, imho it's just not worth the extra for the 10000.
Also would go for the 4870 1gb, which will be better with the 24" monitor and benefits from gddr5 which will help if you're overclocking.
The sound card you spec'd is good, I use it myself. Although I would pay a few extra £ for an X-Fi card, the difference is amazing.
You are certainly heading along the right path, you could cut costs by getting a cheaper mobo? and maybe downgrade to 3gb of ram until you feel you need the 6gb.
 
I agree.

consider dropping the raptor, too expensive for what you get I think.

save 100+ and get a nice 24''.

you could always go P6T non deluxe to save £50 too.
 
Thanks very much for the comments guys. I've updated with: -

Samsung SM2443BW 24" Widescreen LCD Monitor @ £229.99
Corsair 3GB DDR3 XMS3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz (3x1GB) Triple Channel DDR3 (TR3X3G1600C9) @ £86.24
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer 7.1 Sound Card @ £59.79
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ £51.71
Total is down to £1435 - which is better.

As for the GPU - for Black Shark what's the best thing to go for, a 4870 1GB? Is that a CPU or a GPU bound game? If it means good frame rates then i'd rather splash a bit more on a fast GPU but I don't know if it would be money well spent. Thoughts? Also, i don't understand the difference between the brands (Powercolour, BFG, etc) - how do you choose between them?
 
done this for you, with a couple changes/alternatives, explained afterwards

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CPU straight forward, but get OEM not retail, its the same but cheaper
MB this is an alternative to the asus, both are very good boards, go with whichever you fancy
RAM Id stick with 6 gig, however you can save money by getting the 10666, the 920 doesnt support any faster anyway
Monitor just left the one you chose
GFX agree with others re 4870, doesnt really matter what make you go for, theyre all very similar, no performance difference
PSU alternative, either will do, though the PC P&C is very good
Case the one you specced is microATX that wont fit your new rig, you need a full size ATX, I've included the 1200 as is great case with very good cooling, if you dont like the look of Id recomend looking at Lian Li series
HDD this is the one recomended by the others
Optical drive, same drive just OEM version, save a couple quid
Also included an aftermarket cooler in case you want to OC and a new O/S, dont know if you missed off or have a spare?
 
95thrifles - perfect, thanks very much indeed for taking the time to do this. You've covered all my questions I think. Have already bought a copy of Vista 64bit, so that's covered.
 
Help me pull the trigger on i7 flight sim rig

Right - lots of browsing later...I'm pretty sure I want to go NVidia single GPU and am trying to choose a GTX.

Thinking either BFG GTX 260 OCX or BFG GTX 285 OC. Advice?

Am sold on the i7 but not sure about the mobo. What are the differences between the Gigabyte ex58-ud4 and the P6T Deluxe? Also, what is the difference between P6T and P6T Deluxe - have read the specs but don't know what the real world differences mean.

The RAM i have chosen is too fast for 920 i think but it's on offer at the same price as slower model - thoughts? Don't yet understand if i need faster RAM if i wanna overclock - which i do, or if there is a hardware limit in the 920 that makes it a waste of money getting faster model.

Love the look of the red PC Power quad crossfire PSU - sorry for being dumb but what's the difference between that and the quad SLI version that comes in black? Presumably must be compatible with nvidia & ati - it's just power isn't it?!?!?

Will the case fit this setup inside and do i need any additional fans in addition to those that come with the case?

Mainly going to be used for Lock On, Black Shark, FSX, Call of Duty and maybe Crysis.

Can't quite bring myself to pull the trigger on this purchase until i'm sure on the GFX card and mobo decisions.

Can anyone tell me how to screenshot my whole basket? I tried but only got half of it because i'm on a laptop, so need to scroll to see it all.

PS Prices below are ex VAT

BFG GeForce GTX 285 OC 1024MB GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 Graphics Card - Retail
£279.99

Asus P6T Deluxe Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
£219.99

Intel Core i7 920 2.66Ghz (Nehalem) (Socket LGA1366) - OEM
£209.99

Samsung SM2443BW 24" Widescreen LCD Monitor
£190.99

Corsair 6GB DDR3 XMS3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz (3x2GB) Triple Channel DDR3 (TR3X6G1600C9)
£128.99

Corsair TX 750W ATX2.2 SLI Compliant PSU
£89.99

Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366)
£49.99

Antec 300 Three Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case - Black (No PSU)
£45.99

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKS)
£44.99

Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer 7.1 Sound Card - OEM (30SB073000002)
£44.99

Sennheiser PC151 Pro-Gaming Headset (500922)
£29.99

Samsung SH-S223Q/RSMN 22x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer Lightscribe ReWriter (Beige/Black/Silver) - Retail
£18.99

Belkin F5D7000UK 54Mbps Wireless Desktop PCI Network Adapter
£13.99

OCZ Equalizer Mini Gamer Mouse (OCZMSEQRM)
£12.99

Logitech Deluxe Keyboard (Black) - OEM (967738-0120)
£5.99
 
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Stick with the 285, on a 24" monitor its better suited than the 260 which might struggle to run all games with max eye candy, the 285 wont have a problem
Re RAM if the cost difference isnt much then yeah get the faster stuff, it'll just run it at whatever speed it can cope with, dint realise it was on offer and was just saying not to pay the premium for something you might not be able to get benefit from
Re mobo, the choice between asus and gigabyte is personal, the gigabyte equivalent of the top asus board would be the UD5 extreme. re deluxe vs non deluxe, as far as I can tell the deluxe is set up to be more overclockable with extra cooling and more power phases, though imo you wont notice the benefit until you get to the top level of squezzing out every last MHz from that CPU, for most people it wont be noticable.
And yeah both PSU's are the same, its just marketing
Anyway enjoy
 
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