Ripjaw/Vengeance Clearance?

The Halk

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I'm going to grab a set of 2x4GB memory, and I'm looking at all the available sets on OcUK. I'll likely end up just going for a 1600Mhz set, which means probably Ripjaw.

However I want to make sure the heatspreaders will not prevent me fitting a great big fat arsed cooler. I currently have OCZ Reaper which of course rules that right out.

Edit : Looks like it might be this since that's the frequency of Bulldozer's controller.
 
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this also depends on the motherboard? can you use memory slots furthest away from the cpu socket?
 
That's not really what I'm asking. If the memory was too tall I'd get modules that didn't have tall heatspreaders.
 
lol.

yes it is, its right there in your second paragraph.

its also the title of this thread.

so unless you have a strange use of the english language, then my reply is valid.
 
If it was me I'd get these: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-060-GS due to the 1.5v voltage.

As per stulid it depends on the location of the memory slots and the cooler used, so we need more information like motherboard make/mode. Generally however clearance isn't really an issue, it is often a case of just moving the ram or adjusting the fan on wide HSFs like the Silver Arrow and D14.

For example my Corsair Vengeance and Dominator memory only fits with my Cogage Arrow because it is in the set of the slots furthest from the CPU socket. In most cases this is the easiest solution.

For reference, the Vengeance modules are about 5cm high, which is 2cm more than a standard set of DDR3.
 
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lol.

yes it is, its right there in your second paragraph.

its also the title of this thread.

so unless you have a strange use of the english language, then my reply is valid.
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I asked if the memory was too tall.

You told me to put the memory elsewhere.

That's not what I asked. I asked if it was too tall.

Speed. No it doesn't depend on the location of the memory slots. Or the cooler used. You don't need more information onthe motherboard make/mode.

Generally clearance not being an issue is utterly useless. It's either an issue or it isn't. There's no variance in height of the CPU socket and memory modules on motherboards. They will either clear or they won't clear. It's never the case of moving the ram, I'm not asking that. I'm not adjusting the fan on the HSF either.

However you finally answred the simple question I asked in the first post. Are they too tall. Yes they are too tall.
 
Jesus, we are only trying to help. Your OP was very vauge.

No what I said was if clearance is an issue, you can move the memory into the next set of ram slots over.

Of course it matters what the cooler is. They vary in height and width! Something like a TRUE isn't going to be anywhere near the memory but a dual radiator cooler like the Silver Arrow or D14 will be.

Are the modules too tall? To tall for what? "a great big fat arsed cooler" isn't an actual model and they vary in size! :rolleyes:
 
You're not trying to help at all. That's the problem. That's why I get frustrated. I post a question and people post back telling me I should do something else instead. Nearly every single time I post a thread it happens and I end up having to come back and justify why I want to do something.

Do you think I'm too stupid to work out that it might be possible to move RAM into a different slot?
 
You ask a very vauge question and wonder why you have to come back and clarify?!

If you had said I'm thinking of getting XXXX Cooler and putting XXXX memory on the same board, will it fit? Someone with that setup could have commented or someone could have done a bit of research for you but you didn't.

So to answer your question: I want to make sure the heatspreaders will not prevent me fitting a great big fat arsed cooler. I currently have OCZ Reaper which of course rules that right out.

It depends on the width of said "great big fat arsed cooler." and the height of "heatspreaders".... also depends if you want to populate the other two slots in future or not.
 
Nope. It was a very simple question. As always seems to happen people suggest something else.

I ask if any of the other motherboard manufacturers are good at supporting their boards with software after release. And someone tells me to use third party software.

I ask if anyone has connected a 12cm PWM to a graphics card PWM header. And someone tells me I don't want to do it and to use third party software to control the fan from a motherboard header.

And it doesn't just happen to me. Lots of times I see thread where someone asks for advice and they're not given the answer to the question they have asked. They instead are told they should do something else instead. It's infuriating when it happens to me, I'm sure it is when it happens to other people too.
 
I'm sorry you didn't get the straight to point answer you were hoping for, but saying I'm not "trying" to help is a bit insulting. I wouldn't have posted if I wasn't trying to help.

It was a suggested solution if you had issues, not a comment on your intelligence. The problem is that heatsinks vary in height and width, some coolers like the Noctua NH-D14 and Silver Arrow extend over the first ram slot, which is where the problems stem from.

I can't say with any certainty that a particular ram, say Vengeance will fit under a D14 and not a Silver Arrow, so without going to every website of "great big fat arsed coolers" you can't be certain as the distance from the motherboard surface to the first obstruction is different with pretty much all non-standard performance coolers. The Silver Arrow for example is 40.87mm excluding cpu/socket thickness and the D14 is 44mm, again excluding the socket/cpu thickness.

See what I mean?

This might be of use: http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=compatibility_ram_gen&products_id=34&lng=en but it won't apply to all coolers, just that one.
 
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I did get the straight answer I was looking for. You gave it by accident whilst you were patronising me telling me to do it a different way.

All I was looking for was "My D14 cleared my Ripjaw just fine" or "I had to move my Vengeance to get the Megahelms in".

It isn't reasonable for me to ask for a list of what would fit on what. It's not even reasonable to think one might exist.

As per usual though I ask a question and I get a queue of people telling me to do it a different way.
 
The module is about 5cm if that helps any.

I was going to buy some but decide to wait on the 990 motherboards coming out first.

I have a DFi motherboard, v8 cooler, and Dominator memory and there ain't much in the way of clearance for slot 1.
 
Cheers Shannowdr. I'm stating to think it's best for me to avoid that type of module completely. Even if I do get 8GB I expect I'll want to go to 16GB at some point, if only just to run a massive ramdisk :)
 
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I did get the straight answer I was looking for. You gave it by accident whilst you were patronising me telling me to do it a different way.

All I was looking for was "My D14 cleared my Ripjaw just fine" or "I had to move my Vengeance to get the Megahelms in".

It isn't reasonable for me to ask for a list of what would fit on what. It's not even reasonable to think one might exist.

As per usual though I ask a question and I get a queue of people telling me to do it a different way.
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How was I patronising you? It was simply a suggestion, should you run into problems. How can you not see I was trying to help but needed more information for an accurate and concise reply.

As per my above post, different coolers have different heights. Memory that clears a D14 may not clear a Silver Arrow for example, so there is no point me saying XXXX clears XXXX as that may not be the cooler you get in the future.

Either way, I'd recommend the D14, so if you use the link here: http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=compatibility_ram_gen&products_id=34&lng=en you can pick some ram that will populate all the slots.
 
Now that link is very helpful indeed! Perhaps I was a little aggresive last night. I honestly am fed up with the standard pattern here when someone asks a question.

I want to do this, anyone help?
Why do you want to do it? You'd be better off doing this instead.
No, I don't want to do that I want to do what I said in the original post.
Why do you want to do what you said in the original post, you'd be better off doing it differently
Because I've already considered that and discarded the idea.

The link, interestingly enough shows that Ripjaw is fine with the DH14, which surprised me.
 
Nah, motherboards/chipsets are just as happy. Although sometimes they are paired 1&2 and 3&4 rather than even/odd numbers. The motherboard manual always has a "best way" to put the DIMMs in.
 
i have the ripjaws in mine 4x2gb and a zalman fat ass cooler ;) but due to the design of the zalman there is no probs accessing ram slots.

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hope it helps
 
Yes, that cooler was the other option I had... it'd pretty much end any need for me to have RAM problems.

I think that's probably the answer, rather than changing RAM etc.
 
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