Road Trip to Italy and Back

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Against all good judgement we've recently taken on (and completed) the challenge of a road trip, 2000 miles from home to Italy and back (strangely enough). Two year old child and all :).

I thought I would document the trip here. There were plenty of amazing things to see, but I didn't get amazing pictures of all of them :p
I figured anyone making a similar journey might be interested in the logistics of it so this will probably just turn out to be me rambling on about stuff nobody don't cares about (including too many exclamation marks and brackets!), if so just scroll down and look at the pretty pictures ;)
Feel free to comment on (and criticise) the photos or the journey.

They're not (all :p) photographically brilliant but some shots are there for completeness.

I'll start with the first couple of days and add more soon...

First of all the map of the journey with all the overnight (or longer) stops. (just the big circles, ignore all the road works and stars..)

They were all one night stops except - 7 nights at lake garda, 2 nights in paris.

Day 1 - Home to Luxembourg via Lille
Here's a hint for anyone on topcashback (or tesco clubcard users) - £50 cashback = more than 5000 clubcard points = £150 off eurotunnel (enough for a normal return basically). That's pretty much what started this whole road trip madness off the first place.
Eurotunnel is convenient and if you get there early they normally transfer you on to an earlier train. We got there about 2 1/5 hours before our departure and drove on to the train about an hour later. No pictures of that one though :p
We arrived in Calais and drove the hour to Lille in time for lunch in vieux (old) lille. No good pictures there but a tasty crepe.

There is however a free zoo in lille and it's totally worth the entry price - much better than you might expect, and actually the enclosures seemed much better and more spacious for the animals than many more expensive zoos around the world. You won't see the big guns like giraffes or elephants or big cats (or penguins) - the largest animal is probably a rhino, but it's definitely a good couple of hours of entertainment for a young one.

Leafy Lille by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

Reflecting, Slowly... by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

After spending longer than expected at the zoo (stuck in the playground), we drove another three hours through belgium to luxembourg city. By the time we got there it was after 9pm (no good pictures again - Sadly we didn't run in to the headquarters of any big international brands like Amazon, which must be photo worthy)

At this point we discovered the benefits of the price of food in Luxembourg. The benefit is not that it's cheap, it's that it's so expensive we had to walk around the whole town before finding somewhere to eat. We're talking about average prices of €30-40 for a main course at every restaurant!! There is of course a McDonalds there too, but there was no way we were resorting to that on the first night :rolleyes:
If it weren't for this there's no way we would have seen any of the town as I had only managed to sleep 30 mins the night (i.e. morning) before and we'd been driving for 6 hours...

Day 2 - Luxembourg to Mt Pilatus, Lucerne, Switzerland
A good six or seven hours of sleep in an Ibis Budget hotel later we were up - I wanted to get to our next destination as early as possible because the weather there was critical!
After filling up the tank in luxembourg (much cheaper!) we headed off toward strasbourg....

only to get pulled over by the french police as soon as we left luxembourg. Thankfully they were just the customs police who wanted to know if we had any undeclared items worth more than £10,000. After chucking my 1000 packs of diamond encrusted gucci cigarettes out the window I told them I didn't. They seemed somewhat surprised that there might be british people on a road trip to Italy. Maybe they were on to something..

After passing strasbourg we were in the alsace, and I had already found online a nice little detour to take. In the village of Gertwiller (near Barr) there are not one, but two(!!) gingerbread museums. Due to the rush we only went in to the shop, but a good place to stretch ones legs (and there's a lidl not far away if you need some cheap chocolate with your gingerbread)
La Maison du Pain d'epices by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

Straight on then in to switzerland where the cheese is apparently holy (close enough), and they like playing with stickers enough that they have to stick one on the windscreen of everyone who drives on the motorway (and charge them 40 francs in the process, if anyone actually has francs when they remember switzerland aren't part of the EU [or the eurozone {funnily enough}])
We drove straight to the cable car station for mount pilatus at Lucerne, which is the one thing I really wanted to do on this trip (expensive though it is).. This is a bit like a gateway to the alps. On one side the relatively flat bit in the middle of switzerland, on the other side, a very bumpy bit.

You first board a 'panoramic gondola' which carries up to 4 people in the town (suburb?) of Kriens, which takes you on a reasonably long journey most of the way up the mountain.
Cabin View by TheRealZogger, on Flickr
It's possible to walk/hike all the way up the mountain for those who have gone a little funny in the head, but we stuck with the easy option.
At the second stop you have to get off, and there are some activities, for example a large rope park:
Don't Look Down by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

or alternatively "switzerland's longest summer toboggan run", which we of course had to do. It involves sitting on a sled with wheels and rolling yourself down a 1350m steel slide as fast as possible. Fun for all the family! I've done this before in america, but there they have manly concrete slides that leave you with lifelong souvenirs if you fall off. The steel construction here means you can't do it in the rain, but amusingly if it rains just a little (as it did) they just send down a toboggan with a giant towel out the back of it to dry the slide off.

You can then take the larger cable car up the rest of the way which, being quite a long way off the ground, gets a little hairy in the wind.

Pray you don't fall by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

The top of the mountain is often covered by cloud which is why I wanted to make sure we got here when the weather was good. We stepped out of the cable car (which somehow feels like it swings a little precariously even in the station, where 'mind the gap' is more like 'mind the 100ft drop'), and it was rather chilly. Luckily there is quite a lot of 'inside' up there as well as outside.

You can just about see at the bottom left of the below that there is also an alternative route up the mountain (from May - November) - the world's steepest cogwheel railway from Alpnachstad - but if you go this way there and back you don't get to stop at the toboggan run!
Pilatus Ascent by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

Nearly There by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

At the summit there are even two hotels. I can't imagine wanting to stay in one that much since the last cable cars / trains run at about 5.30pm... but I guess you get the unique experience of being there at night time.
Hotel at the Top by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

And finally for this post, the view from our hotel in Horw (close enough to Lucerne). You can see the hotel on the summit from the previous picture, and the rest of the stuff at the top of the mountain..
Guests only now by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

At this point we had slept for one night but had already driven in 5 countries. It's not the first time I've been on a very similar route but since I was 9 years old last time, it's the first time I was driving... It's a funny feeling that you don't get if you just sit on a plane or a train.
 
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Thanks for comments, Mt Pilatus was the highlight for me so it's probably where the best pictures are, all downhill from there (literally) :p
 
Day 3 - Lucerne to Rovio (nr Lugano), Switzerland
After seeing pilatus a day earlier than planned we now had basically a whole day in Lucerne proper.
I discovered online there is a museum card for lucerne which gives free entry to all (or at least most) of the museums. It's not advertised much, probably because in switzerland the rail passes all include discounts all over the place. But for anyone just driving through it's a good deal if you go in a few places (considering switzerland in general is hideously expensive anyway).

This is the top of the cultural center - these people all appeared at once and suddenly in my head I could hear the tune from close encounters of the third kind.
Invasion Force by TheRealZogger, on Flickr
It's an interesting building inside and out, but you're not allowed "big cameras" in the kunstmuseum :(
kunstmuseum luzern by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

Lucerne's major landmark is the covered bridge over the lake, called chapel bridge, which pretends to be old but was actually restored after a fire in the 90s - although you'll see a better picture of it on wikipedia ;)
Waterfront by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

This is where the polarizer came out, and from this point on I used it every day except for the last couple...
What Lurks Beneath by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

Chapel Bridge by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

Another monument on the other side of the city is the dying lion, which is a memorial to the swiss guard who were killed during the french revolution in 1792. You can't really tell the scale in most pictures because it's difficult for people to get close to it. It's more impressive in person - the face alone is about the height of a fully grown person. (the lighting provided a wonderful opportunity to set the "shadows" slider to -100% in lightroom)
The Dying Lion by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

Just nextdoor to the lion is the glacier garden - basically some old rock in the middle of the city - but quite interesting because it was shaped by glaciers (and stuff like that) millions of years ago. We also got to make up for not seeing penguins in the zoo...
Just Chilling by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

The glacier garden also included a museum about glaciers, an old house, and some more stuff that we didn't see. But the highlight was the mirror maze which is an enjoyable exercise in holding your arms out and trying not to lose your child, who looks like they are standing right in front of you but are actually three corners away, all the while avoiding running head first in to mirrors.

Then we drove off in to the alps, just as the clouds decided we were overdue a storm and the heavens opened - which also meant the perfect time for a british person in a swiss car to stop me at the traffic lights to tell me our left headlamp bulb needed changing... no way that was happening that day..
Here's a token shot of me driving in the alps. Demonstrates how stuffed the car was as even the front seat was unusable (no, that's not E.T. sitting on the front seat)
IMG_4302.jpg by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

This section also involves the longest road tunnel in the EU - the gotthard tunnel which takes you from german speaking Switzerland to Italian speaking Switzerland. Only one lane in each direction means it can become a major bottle neck. I had hoped to go over the pass but it was still covered in snow at this point. Thankfully we timed this right, going on sunday evening, as the queues to get in to the tunnel on the other side looked like hours long... don't go north on a sunday or south on a Saturday... as lots of swiss go south for the weekend.

After a short winding drive off the motorway near lugano, the opposite side of the alps to lucerne, we arrived at Park Hotel Rovio. I guess they probably named this small town / village after the creators of Angry Birds, but the hotel door had apparently been replaced with a time portal that took you back to the eighties, as all of the decor, fixtures and fittings had clearly not been touched in this time (not that there was anything functionally wrong with any of it) - but as a bonus they apparently had free wi-fi in the eighties.

and finally a picture from the hotel parking:
Moonrise in the Alps by TheRealZogger, on Flickr
 
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It's nothing compared to Venice. There's not much traffic but the roads are very narrow and bumpy and pedestrians keep giving you funny looks :confused:
 
Day 4 - Rovio - Peschiera Del Garda, Italy
A couple of the view down to lake lugano from the hotel (but only a bit of lake lugano...)
Lake Lugano from Rovio by TheRealZogger, on Flickr
Drive On by TheRealZogger, on Flickr
In that one you can see a funny feature of switzerland where virtually every section of motorway also has a minor road running along side it. This means you can still follow the same route to all the same places without paying for the vignette, if you're prepared for a much slower journey... I guess this is just a feature of mountainous places..

after breakfast we made the few minute drive back down the hill to the nearby Swissminiatur - which means that even though we were in switzerland for only two nights we got to see all the major monuments in miniature without all the time and expense of travelling around...
Another good one for the children. There was also a ride-on train which all seems like good fun until your daughter decides to get off the train half way around the track..

(no I haven't just copied the picture from the previous post, this is really a different place!)
This seems familiar... by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

there were lots of neat little touches so a few shots below..

A Mini Adventure by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

Driverless cars? by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

A Grave Day by TheRealZogger, on Flickr



Once we were done here we were off to italy, a couple of hours drive to Camping Del Garda... in Peschiera del Garda... at Lake Garda. Another one that can be paid for with clubcard vouchers when booking with Al Fresco (but we paid cash anyway). The bonus of going on holiday to a campsite in may is that the whole week of accommodation was only £150. (and that's for a mobile home, not a tent!)

The drive was fine except for the nightmare of telepass. For France I ordered the liber-t evasion from ATMB. This means that on toll roads, instead of leaning out the window or getting out of the car at the tolls you can just drive straight through without stopping, and despite having to translate everything from french when ordering it was flawless. Plus as a special offer there were no usage fees so I only paid postage and the deposit.

For italy I made the mistake of doing something similar, but they are not technically available for non-residents so I 'rented' one from tolltickets - but that turned out to be a mistake because a) we only went through a few toll gates anyway, and b) the device only worked very intermittently, which is not great when you get to the exit barrier and you can't get off the motorway. I have a feeling I'm going to have to get a large overpayment refunded somehow (when I can see the statement..) - plus it was more expensive in the first place
 
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Day 5 - Sirmione
The first night we arrived in italy we were welcomed with a huge thunderstorm that lasted for hours. The next day started off rainy but we braved the rain which happily went away as soon as we got out of the car at..

Sirmione is a little town sitting on a peninsula in Lake Garda. As you can see it has a castle, and it's a pretty typical Scaligeri castle, which most of the towns in the area have, but this one is a little more interesting because of its position. Effectively the old town is on an island and there is only one small bridge through the old castle wall, that connects it to the rest of the peninsula...

Most of the people there were tourists but May is a good time to visit as it wasn't excessive

Scaligeri Castle by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

Going up to the top of the castle is worth the small entrance fee
Making an Escape by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

Peninsula View by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

Belltower by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

Lookout by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

Stairway to... by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

Caffe Grande Italia by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

Passing By by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

There are also some old roman ruins at the tip of the peninsula which we didn't reach... Which was claimed to be a villa owned the Roman poet Catullus, but apparently that was impossible.
 
Day 6 - Lazise
Most of the towns around the lake have a market day so we thought we'd head to nearby Lazise for the market on this day. It's a pretty standard tourist market, but probably the biggest one I've ever been to - it's not a big town so it's practically encompassed by the market and the lakefront is obscured by all the stalls...

A Seat in the Past by TheRealZogger, on Flickr

A Splash of Red by TheRealZogger, on Flickr


Lazise Market by TheRealZogger, on Flickr
(the focus annoys me on this picture but I wanted something representative of the market ;))
 
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