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Rocket Lake Review: A waste of sand...

Apart from stock benchmarks, for overclocking: "we had real trouble getting this thing to overclock to any level that was meaningful for performance before we ran into voltage issues and temperature throttling"
 
https://www.windowscentral.com/intel-will-build-chips-other-companies

Looks like Intel is planning on diversifying away from just designing and fabricating inhouse chips. Can hardly blame them given the seemingly industry wide moves away from x86 and their recent Rocket Lake release!


It's built to scaleable, so if Intel wants prefer to outsource a chiplet or two for its next cpu it can, it can even mix and match them - their new architecture can support say a cpu which has half TSMC 3nm chiplets on a low (or high) performance architecture and half Intel 7nm chiplets on a high (or low) performance architecture.

The idea is that Intel will no longer we held back by its own Fab having issues, by breaking down the CPU into its individual units on the die they can outsource bits and even mix architectures and process nodes - it comes together with the foveros 3D stacked interconnect and Intel's fixed function hardware scheduler chip that does the cpu resource scheduling work for the OS (Intel claims it's fixed function resource scheduler chip speeds up multithreaded performance in Windows by up to 2x) - that itself is not a surprise at all, a fixed function hardware unit is always going to get the job done much faster than software, just like that's the case for rayvtracing
 
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I'm sure there was also behind the scenes lobbying from mobo manufactures to not support PCIe 4.0 for older boards.
Plus if it had been allowed, I'm sure it would have clearly shown those OEMs who cheapened out on track design (does more copper make a difference there?) and general design.
Still it is very good of AMD to take all the blame and let the mobo manufacturers of!


That's happened on the amd side too, the AIb didn't want AMD to allow PCIe4 on non 500 series boards even though the older boards can support it
 
Early results on userbenchmark and passmark suggest about 15-20% uplift on previous generation. But these should be taken with a hefty pinch of salt as the sample sizes are currently very low.

These don't really reflect gaming performance though, they could be +100% and still doesn't reflect gaming. and Userbenchmark is a Intel shill
 
Simple evidence to show how much shill UserFakeBenchMark does

Consistently they have hammered on about AMD's memory latency and use it to deduct points from AMD's single core performance and put high scores on Intel for their low latency.

fast forward, here we have the 11700k putting out 62ns latency, 50% higher than last gen Intel and higher than Ryzen 5000 and yet UserFakeBenchMark still continues to give this CPU a very high memory score despite it being slower than and AMD CPU https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/41300013
 
WOW the power difference between the 8700k & 9900k it not far off being double :eek::(

That's because in this ringbus architecture, adding cores produces a logarithmic increase in power draw - so adding 33% more cores gives you much more than 33% higher power usage. Instead of Rocket lake, if Intel refreshed Comet lake and produced a 5-5.3ghz 12 core 11900k it would most likely have power usage at around 400w
 
Intel's bios is clearly still wonky, some 11th gen owners can't even boot up their PCs and some who can report constant BSOD
 
I've seen one person get 5.3ghz using 1.46v overclock on the 11900k (water cooled) and that person is a professional benchmarker who holds 3D Mark top 10 records.

Every other example I've seen has only managed 4.9ghz to 5.1ghz (and this is why most reviewers did not put up overclocking results, because the overclocks that were stable resulted in lower performance than stock)

And the pro benchmarkers don't care about stability, you just need the CPU to complete your benchmark, rest of tasks/games etc is meaningless so cause a pro got 5.3ghz doesn't mean you can do it and be stable.
 
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The sad thing is how many hits they get, userbenchmark consistently pulls over 10 million views per month. How users get there is super obvious as well, people don't look for userbenchmark they type in "organic" terms into Google like "gpu benchmark" or "cpu benchmark" and because of how much they pay Google their names come up at the top. Userbenchmark also doesn't have much traffic from people directly going to the site or from direct links through 3rd pages like from Reddit or youtube etc nor does it get many clicks from ads - their entire thing relies on people searching for generic tech terms on Google and that's it

https://www.similarweb.com/website/userbenchmark.com/#overview
 
Is Rocket lake bad for overclocking?












why yes, yes it is unless you have copious amounts of LN2 and a stomach for voltages that would make most of our eyes pop out
 
Hardware unboxed report that 11th gen are selling very poorly, pc part stores and distributors in Australia say it's the worst Intel CPU launch ever they are stuck with stock and in the US on Amazon 11th gen is far behind AMD and AMD continues to dominate the top 10 sales
 
RTX IO skips the RAM but maybe there is some sort of buffering mechanism with the RAM - main idea is to remove the CPU from the equation (where it makes sense). Guess it all depends on whether storage to VRAM is faster than RAM to VRAM (if they need to do caching).

RTX IO takes data from the storage (SSD) and transfers it to VRAM, on it's way to VRAM, any compressed files are decompressed by RTX IO.

RTX IO does not replace system RAM. RTX IO's sole job is to replace the CPU by doing decompresion on the gpu and not the cpu

Using RTX IO, a RTX3080 GPU has the same decompression performance as a AMD Threadripper 3970x
 
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