ROG STRIX XG27UQ vs PG27UQ ROG Swift 27"

[kieran_read]

Well i've been furloughed as of next week, so thought I would bless my eyes!

Simple question really is there any real difference with these? I don't know much about monitors, quite frankly the current monitor i'm using is an insult to gaming considering I own a 1080ti.

I've been holding off on upgrading as I wanted to jump right to a high refresh rate 4k when I eventually upgraded, obviously there's a grand difference between these two.

From what I can see the only visable difference is one is G-Sync compatable the other has the G-Sync module.... I know it's more for the G-Sync chip but a grand... =/

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...atible-hdr400-widescreen-gamin-mo-0an-as.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...-widescreen-led-gaming-monitor-mo-09q-as.html


Any help ASAP would be good... there's only 7 left!

 

[EsaT]

Unless liking the idea of paying luxury for Nvidia to lock ball and chain into your ankle, so that you can only buy Nvidia overpriced cards in future avoid that G-Sync module.
Though it really should be called as ButtSync, because its function is enabling raping&robbing.
You can use that saved grand to buy next-gen GPU (suspect AMD will have clear performance per price advantage) later in year and possibly something else.

Also that proprietary G-Sync module runs likely very hot needing active fan for cooling.

 

[kieran_read]

Unless liking the idea of paying luxury for Nvidia to lock ball and chain into your ankle, so that you can only buy Nvidia overpriced cards in future avoid that G-Sync module.
Though it really should be called as ButtSync, because its function is enabling raping&robbing.
You can use that saved grand to buy next-gen GPU (suspect AMD will have clear performance per price advantage) later in year and possibly something else.

Also that proprietary G-Sync module runs likely very hot needing active fan for cooling.

That's exactly why i'm asking! If the Radeon has the same path as Zen I may switch up.

From why I can see on further look the more expensive one has higher brightness and a 97% HDR over a 90% HDR... don't think that's worth a grand haha.

 

[EsaT]

From why I can see on further look the more expensive one has higher brightness

That brightness hype makes me think workers in factory's testing department must be wearing welder's masks to avoid face burns from looking into those nuclear furnaces.

 

[kieran_read]

That brightness hype makes me think workers in factory's testing department must be wearing welder's masks to avoid face burns from looking into those nuclear furnaces.

ahah

I wouldn't notice anyway i'm using a 10 year old Samsung i bought from Asda, anything would be an upgrade to my eyes haha.

 

[Baddass]

There’s one major fundamental difference between the two. The PG27UQ has a FALD backlight which delivers 384 zone local dimming for HDR content. It’s one of only a few FALD options in the monitor market right now. That’s also where the 1000 cd/m2 peak brightness spec comes from

The XG27UQ doesn’t have any local dimming of any kind so can’t offer any HDR benefits beyond just the extended colour space and 10-bit colour depth support

that’s the reason for the cost difference along with the G-sync module. Which does also make a difference to gaming capability, response times etc. That’s from actual testing I’m mid way through.

here’s my review of the PG27UQ
https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus_rog_swift_pg27uq.htm

And I am currently reviewing the XG27UQ

 

[kieran_read]

There’s one major fundamental difference between the two. The PG27UQ has a FALD backlight which delivers 384 zone local dimming for HDR content. It’s one of only a few FALD options in the monitor market right now. That’s also where the 1000 cd/m2 peak brightness spec comes from

The XG27UQ doesn’t have any local dimming of any kind so can’t offer any HDR benefits beyond just the extended colour space and 10-bit colour depth support

that’s the reason for the cost difference along with the G-sync module. Which does also make a difference to gaming capability, response times etc. That’s from actual testing I’m mid way through.

here’s my review of the PG27UQ
https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus_rog_swift_pg27uq.htm

And I am currently reviewing the XG27UQ

That's interesting to know. Would you say the cheaper one is worth the money based on you review thus far or is there an alternative you would recommend?

 

[Baddass]

My honest opinion is that 4K on a 27” is more hassle than it’s worth. You only get a small improvement in clarity and sharpness which is going to be hard to notice in gaming over a 2560 x 1440 equivalent. It’s the just a massive overhead in system demands and graphics card power, which I think for most would be better used driving in game graphics and driving higher frame rates.

scaling in applications is also pretty hit and miss, fine with modern OS (if you’re using one) but many applications still struggle. That’s again a bit of an unnecessary complication

i would instead recommend getting a display with a native res that doesn’t need scaling like 27” 1440p for instance. It will save you a lot of money and also give you a much bigger selection to choose from

something like the LG 27GL850 or Viewsonic Elite XG270QG would be a great choice. If you want to spend more then an ultrawide model like one of the many 34” would also be an excellent but different choice

 

[EsaT]

It’s the just a massive overhead in system demands and graphics card power, which I think for most would be better used driving in game graphics and driving higher frame rates.

More precisely 125% more pixels to calculate per frame over 2560x1440.

The PG27UQ has a FALD backlight which delivers 384 zone local dimming for HDR content.

Which still isn't that great to solve LCD's problems.
I've read about it causing "halos" around smaller bright objects on dark background. (like movie subtitles)
Number of zones would really have to be in four number amount to do well without such downsides.

And really whole LCD should be scrapped.
Well... At least Samsung announced that they're starting to downscale LCD production and start moving toward better flat display techs.

 

[Baddass]

You still have blooming challenges on FALD backlights yes in certain situations but it’s still one of the few half way decent HDR technologies available in the Monitor market. There are some mini LED back lights produced and coming soon as well with more zones (1000+) but unless you have pixel-level dimming It will be hard to completely eliminate blooming problems.

If you were to scrap LCD in the monitor market now, you basically have no monitors at all and OLED isn’t ready for the desktop monitor market either

 

[EsaT]

If you were to scrap LCD in the monitor market now, you basically have no monitors at all and OLED isn’t ready for the desktop monitor market either

Maybe we would have other actually good tech already in use, if bean counters and marketroids hadn't wasted so much money for hyping and polishing this old turd called LCD.

Functionally "flattened CRT" SED was demoed nearly 15 years ago, before patent trolls and economic downturn paralyzed its development, which never picked up.

 

[kieran_read]

Thanks for the help, I went with the 4k in the end.