Rooney's Derby Goal

His hattrick on his debut was phenomenal.

However, this goal has to be put into the context that rooney was playing pretty poorly until the goial.

Infact he was involved earlier in the move and his bad pass backweards nearly killed the attack dead but i think scholes kept it alive and fed Nani who did the cross...

Great goal but it is one of those leaps to kick but i dont believe it was aimed so perfectly it just happened that it flew in. Also it was off his shin, not really his foot.

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Nickg said:
His hattrick on his debut was phenomenal.

However, this goal has to be put into the context that rooney was playing pretty poorly until the goial.

Infact he was involved earlier in the move and his bad pass backweards nearly killed the attack dead but i think scholes kept it alive and fed Nani who did the cross...

Great goal but it is one of those leaps to kick but i dont believe it was aimed so perfectly it just happened that it flew in. Also it was off his shin, not really his foot.

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You in negative post about United shocker :rolleyes:

cheets64 said:
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I can name goals against Newcastle (two actually spring to mind), two against Middlesbrough (in the same game) and one against Portsmouth all better than that one for Everton against Arsenal. Not to mention today's goal
 
Overhead kick =- best goal ever and something no one can do unless you're really special?

Never seen Crouch score a cracker of an overhead kick then I take it. Overhead kicks are by and large an equal portion of luck, and fluke. The cross took a deflection and the defence decided to leave him, infact if Richards wasn't such a "femail parts" and stuck his head in, it would have been called a freekick and potentially a red card if he kicks him in the face. Yes, no one wants to get kicked in the face, but honestly if he just threw himself at it he'd have cleared the ball and Rooney would probably have caught him in the chest.

Its no where near the best goal at Old Trafford, its no where near Rooney's best goal, its highly unlikely he actually meant it and mostly came off his shin so again luck + fluke = goaltastic.

A well worked goal without Rooney's shockingly bad control earlier in the move and a deflected cross and a lucky shin for me makes for a better goal, but hey, thats just me.


Feels to me more like media + Fergie trying to kick up a storm to boost Rooney's confidence than anything else. MOTD did show a round up of a bunch of his touches prior to the goal, shockingly bad game really throughout.

Again for me Berbatov came on and just made moves happen, great touch, move it on to the right people, 1-2's, and thats what happens.

Rooney's a MUCH better player than the guy running around like a headless chicken in a pair of clown shoes with the control to match that he is now, but theres no need to overhype a pretty bog standard overhead kick which had a lot of luck.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Its no where near the best goal at Old Trafford, its no where near Rooney's best goal, its highly unlikely he actually meant it and mostly came off his shin so again luck + fluke = goaltastic.
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Hang on, so he didn't mean to score a goal with his over head kick? What was he trying to do then? Pass it back to Van Der Saar?

As for it not being Rooney's best goal, he said it was so are you arguing with him now? :p

Most footballers openly admit when they score wonder goals that nine times out of ten they land in row Z so of course an element of luck is involved but that shouldn't take away the quality and technique of how it was executed
 
Yeah you have to love the 'he just hit and hoped' or 'he didin't mean it' crowd - normally people who have never played beyond being the guy always put in goal at the park. I'd bet a considerable amount the players know exactly what they are *trying* to do - the fact the execution is ridiculously hard to pull off and only works if you hit it so sweetly is something else :p

I.e. the Newcastle volley - I have no doubt he was thinking I'm going to put my laces through this into the top corner - 9/10 times it might end up in row Z but he knew exactly what he wanted to do - it just actually happened :p
 
I must be missing something here.

He was only about ten yards out.
It came off his shin.
He didn't have to move anywhere or do anything to intercept the ball.

Not even goal of the month imo. It's only being fussed over cause it's Rooney, if it was Robbie Savage or someone the reaction would have been 'meh'.
 
Robbie G said:
I must be missing something here.

He was only about ten yards out.
It came off his shin.
He didn't have to move anywhere or do anything to intercept the ball.

Not even goal of the month imo. It's only being fussed over cause it's Rooney, if it was Robbie Savage or someone the reaction would have been 'meh'.
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On the contrary, if someone other than Rooney had scored it then this forum would never stop crowing about it.
 
Rich_L said:
Yeah you have to love the 'he just hit and hoped' or 'he didin't mean it' crowd - normally people who have never played beyond being the guy always put in goal at the park. I'd bet a considerable amount the players know exactly what they are *trying* to do - the fact the execution is ridiculously hard to pull off and only works if you hit it so sweetly is something else :p

I.e. the Newcastle volley - I have no doubt he was thinking I'm going to put my laces through this into the top corner - 9/10 times it might end up in row Z but he knew exactly what he wanted to do - it just actually happened :p
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So why did he shin it then? DId he intend to shin it wide of the keeper?

His body was just at such an angle (that he moved it into obviously) but it wasdnt a clean strike in terms of execution, although his shape and agility in the air was good.

Did not one else notice that it came off his shin?
 
funny listening and reading all the posts about it not being as good as people say lol, he shinned it a little, wow wee, dunno if any of them people have had a good look at it but if he properly shins it, it goes over the bar, he isnt over the ball, and his shin is facing way over the bar, he had to control some of it with the top of his foot or it would have screamed over, the people who are saying kompany slipped, the ball is a good 6 foot over his head and he slipped as the ball was near enough over his head, kompany slipping had no effect on the outcome.
 
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Tom84 said:
You in negative post about United shocker :rolleyes:
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Well its also nice to hear rooney back up what i said:

"I saw it come into the box and thought 'why not?' Thankfully it finished up in the top corner.
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"I wasn't too pleased with my overall performance today but I got a chance and thankfully managed to take it.".

Like i said, it wasnt executed with the exact intention of going in like it did. he got great shape and was in a good position and it went in that way. Awesome. But he didnt calculate it, nor did he think he played well either...

SO am i allowed to voice a realistic opinion without the condescending rolleyes, if the player himself backs up what i stated? Or are you going to ignore reality and say it was all positive?
 
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With the space he had I could score that ;). I reckon he's scored 3 or 4 better goals atleast.

Very good goal but the ball looped to him perfectly. I prefer the goals he scores with movement and positioning.
 
For me his volley against Newcastle is his best one.

LuLz at the, "he was only 10 yards out" "shinned it" and "Only cuz it's Rooney" comments.

Anyone that has played football at any decent level will tell you how hard that is to do, I scored one very similar once, the only time I have ever really connected properly, ended up hitting an Astra.

For all the people that didn't think it was that special, have a look through the best over head kicks ever in the history of professional football. You will only find 2 examples that even come close, Rivaldo's and Trevor Sinclair's. Now for something that wasn't very good and is easy to execute, why is there not one of those every week to discuss?
 
cheets64 said:
Was good it won the game so its 10 times as good, sort of stuff they try on the training ground, pull it off amazing, everybody remembers it, goes wrong a sarcastic cheer nobody remembers it but only his 5 goal, if he can do that why cant he score every week.

This is better
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wow yer waza's goal was great but I was remembering trevor's goal too

qpr in the prem!! :)
 
drunkenmaster said:
Its no where near the best goal at Old Trafford, its no where near Rooney's best goal, its highly unlikely he actually meant it and mostly came off his shin so again luck + fluke = goaltastic.
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lmfao, your funny you.


yeh, what he really ment to do is miss the ball completely get up have a fit, jobs a good'un, some of you dont half talk ****, thankfully though your opinion counts for nothing.
 
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G|mp said:
For me his volley against Newcastle is his best one.
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That was the goal I immediately thought of when his best goals were mentioned, from what I remember (and the clips don't seem to show it) he'd just spent the past minute or so having words with the referee then realised the ball was down near Newcastle's end, ran onto it and lashed it in - all the while looking mighty hacked off with the whole situation which just made me laugh even more.

His goal yesterday was pretty special though, maybe not the best he's ever scored but it'd make top 5 for most players.
 
G|mp said:
For me his volley against Newcastle is his best one.

LuLz at the, "he was only 10 yards out" "shinned it" and "Only cuz it's Rooney" comments.

Anyone that has played football at any decent level will tell you how hard that is to do, I scored one very similar once, the only time I have ever really connected properly, ended up hitting an Astra.

For all the people that didn't think it was that special, have a look through the best over head kicks ever in the history of professional football. You will only find 2 examples that even come close, Rivaldo's and Trevor Sinclair's. Now for something that wasn't very good and is easy to execute, why is there not one of those every week to discuss?
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I played football every week for nearly 18 years, I did kung Fu and Kickboxing as well, I was very flexable, I can still do "jumping spinning kicks" as the instructor refered to them or jumping roundhouses as every one else does, axe kicks, reverse seeps, I could do front flips, back flips (once) and near enough do vertical splits, as in side kicks, but striaght up in the air.

Could I do a bicycle kick?
Could I arse, nearest I got was back to goal, ball comes in, I flick it up, fall over backwards and kick it at the same time.

Went about three yards behind me.
Looked a ****. :(
 
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