Router for BT fibre

Nickolp1974

Nickolp1974

Nickolp1974

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I've not changed the stock router for years, will i see a difference?? im on BT fibre, router in living room and PC upstairs hard wired to a disc. Speed is good but just wondering if i can get it any better?? I play FPS games online so i'd imagine latency needs to be the best it can be as i do notice a touch of lag while playing. I have no idea in this field so any advice is welcomed.
 
Orcvader said:
If you want to reduce latency your best option is to run a proper dedicated cable to the router. Your current setup still goes through wireless as the disc connects to the main hub via that.
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yeah i get that but it cant be done, "the wife" so i have to stick to wifi, what are these mesh things? there must be a way of improving what i have
 
Nickolp1974 said:
yeah i get that but it cant be done, "the wife" so i have to stick to wifi, what are these mesh things? there must be a way of improving what i have
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There is, its called a cable and as has been explained, its the best option. Replacing wifi with wifi is still wifi and you aren't going to change the way physics works by buying different wifi.
 
ok, so the least obtrusive way would be to go outside and back in, approx 25m, would you use cat6??

PS. have tried to RMA the wife many times for not being fit for purpose, unfortunately i'm out of my warranty period and the manufacturer won't deal with her neither.
 
Nickolp1974 said:
ok, so the least obtrusive way would be to go outside and back in, approx 25m, would you use cat6??

PS. have tried to RMA the wife many times for not being fit for purpose, unfortunately i'm out of my warranty period and the manufacturer won't deal with her neither.
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cat6 will do for that length. Did the same for the outdoor run, haven't had any issues with it for years.
 
It’s 25m, as long as its solid copper core 5e or better, and either suitably rated for external use or run inside conduit then it will likely be fine for 10Gb. Just try not to terminate it with your teeth and you should be fine.
 
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Ha Ha LOL, i'm gonna own up on this one :cry:
firstly like i said previously i know very little when it comes to the network side of PC's. I originally thought that technology must have moved on where wifi could be nearly as good as a wired connection and i would have spent say 300 notes on such a product, on looking about i could see some strange looking boxes (mesh) still not sure what they do but damn there expensive!!
Anyway thanks to you kind people i only wasted £20 instead of a lot more. £20 because i purchased a solid copper core cat6 30m cable and some clips that i never knew i DID NOT NEED :cry: as i live in a new house and i did not know (at the time) that my house is networked? every room has ethernet socket in it with a further 6 sockets at the routers position!! HA HA HA so went up in the loft and grabbed a few patch cables and low and behold a wired connection 512mb/s and very low latency gaming. Happy days.

Thanks again all ;):cry::cry:
 
It seems to be a common theme in here that when someone asks for wifi they will get told to go with cable.
Unless you can run cables in walls it looks absolutely cr@p.
 
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panthro said:
It seems to be a common theme in here that when someone asks for wifi they will get told to go with cable.
Unless you can run cables in walls it looks absolutely cr@p.
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Unfortunately cable is the best to use if speed and latency matters. Yes it's more work and can look bad but is future proof. Even with WiFi 7, you won't get the best speeds unless you're in the same room, due to 5/6GHz's poor range. If you want fast WiFi speeds in a different room than the router you'll want to wire up an access point... which by then you might as well wire up the PC.

Mesh is a good alternative but as it relies on wireless backhaul you need to ensure each node has a strong connection to other nodes.

CaNsA said:
Has power line network kit improved much since I last used it?

Worth considering.
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Still depends on how the home electrical wiring is done, while I have seen some cases of it being a few hundred mbps, if you have full gigabit fibre and want full speeds it'll still hold it back.
 
Orcvader said:
Unfortunately cable is the best to use if speed and latency matters. Yes it's more work and can look bad but is future proof. Even with WiFi 7, you won't get the best speeds unless you're in the same room, due to 5/6GHz's poor range. If you want fast WiFi speeds in a different room than the router you'll want to wire up an access point... which by then you might as well wire up the PC.

Mesh is a good alternative but as it relies on wireless backhaul you need to ensure each node has a strong connection to other nodes.
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I agree but if you have internal brick walls, unless you want to channel your walls out or run external cables, Mesh is the best option.
 
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panthro said:
I agree but if you have internal brick walls, unless you want to channel your walls out or run external cables, Mesh is the best option.
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Its like anything, if you do it often enough, its easy. I mean if I can hide over 300 meters of bright purple shielded 5e in a 200 y/o house with nothing on show, and do so without channeling a single wall (not least because the ceilings are 12ft high and finished with hand run plaster that is obscenely expensive to replace), then with a little effort, so can pretty much anyone. Oh and mesh is laughed at when every single internal wall is double course brick work.
 
Avalon said:
Its like anything, if you do it often enough, its easy. I mean if I can hide over 300 meters of bright purple shielded 5e in a 200 y/o house with nothing on show, and do so without channeling a single wall (not least because the ceilings are 12ft high and finished with hand run plaster that is obscenely expensive to replace), then with a little effort, so can pretty much anyone. Oh and mesh is laughed at when every single internal wall is double course brick work.
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Define a little effort because I don't do it often enough so cannot work out how do you run cable around the floor, through doors and up the stairs without having it on show or behind trunking.
 
Nickolp1974 said:
I've not changed the stock router for years, will i see a difference?? im on BT fibre, router in living room and PC upstairs hard wired to a disc. Speed is good but just wondering if i can get it any better?? I play FPS games online so i'd imagine latency needs to be the best it can be as i do notice a touch of lag while playing. I have no idea in this field so any advice is welcomed.
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Wireless is fine for most gaming. It's really only FPS games that wireless will give you a disadvantage.
The smarthub which comes from BT with their fibre products is pretty good as far as wifi is concerned. The only real drawback is you can't separate the SSIDs for 2.4Ghz and 5.0Ghz
 
panthro said:
It seems to be a common theme in here that when someone asks for wifi they will get told to go with cable.
Unless you can run cables in walls it looks absolutely cr@p.
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Agreed, unless you can go directly behind something and run externally
CaNsA said:
Has power line network kit improved much since I last used it?

Worth considering.
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Forgot about this one, so i have no idea.
 
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