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David522

David522

David522

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We have recently upgraded to Sky Fibre broadband & they have changed my phone line to digital so it goes through their router.

Sadly the speeds are rubbish and looking to get a better router,

My problem is I'm having trouble finding one that has a UK phone connector on it.

Can anyone recommend a router that does?
 
If you want to keep using the phone number then you're stuck with using the Sky router. The problem you'll have isn't finding a router that's got the physical phone connector, the problem will be getting the necessary details from Sky in order to connect the telephone side of the new router.
 
Any phone service supplied by a large consumer ISP (BT, Sky, Virgin) is not possible to use with 3rd party ATAs - if you want the phone service then you have to use their equipment.
 
When you say the speeds are rubbish how are you measuring this? Is it the connection (WAN) or a local device eg the Wifi? Also nothing prevents you from moving to your own VOIP solution, you can port out from Sky if you have some attachment to the number, though fixed line telephony in most domestic situations is largely pointless at this stage - I haven't plugged a phone into a phone socket in over a decade, if anyone wants me, they call my mobile and I do the same for them unless they're ancient.
 
the-evaluator said:
If you want to keep using the phone number then you're stuck with using the Sky router. The problem you'll have isn't finding a router that's got the physical phone connector, the problem will be getting the necessary details from Sky in order to connect the telephone side of the new router.
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I wonder if Wireshark can find the details... Though from what I've looked nobody has the details on any site that I've found. Which makes me wonder if it's severely locked down.
 
You can't really port out though as this kills the broadband service (not a technical limitation from what I understand, just the way the large providers billing platforms work), and if you're in contract you'll get charged for early termination.

I'm going to move my landline number out to Sipgate when my BT contract is up but it will require some juggling and possibly a week or so on 4G to do it.
 
Caged said:
You can't really port out though as this kills the broadband service (not a technical limitation from what I understand, just the way the large providers billing platforms work), and if you're in contract you'll get charged for early termination.

I'm going to move my landline number out to Sipgate when my BT contract is up but it will require some juggling and possibly a week or so on 4G to do it.
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Thinking about the way OR operate vs having direct switch access, you're probably right.
 
V F said:
I wonder if Wireshark can find the details... Though from what I've looked nobody has the details on any site that I've found. Which makes me wonder if it's severely locked down.
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I tried to do just that one a BT connection. I put a switch between the ONT & Smart Hub 2 then ran a packet capture. I could see TLS 1.2 encrypted SIP traffic so no chance to grab the credentials, I could see the FQDN it was connecting to, but can't remember what it was.

Next I connected the SH2 as a client on my LAN, so the SH2 had internet access but I didn't see any SIP traffic and I couldn't make to receive any calls. I assume that if the SH2 isn't creating a PPPoE session then it doesn't start the SIP services.
 
I did think about messing about with local PPPoE servers but decided I wasn't all that bothered. The SH2 works fine for my parents and I setup a Sipgate account a couple of years ago and gave that out as my 'home' number instead of the BT number.

An interesting read though, thanks for posting it.
 
V F said:
I wonder if Wireshark can find the details... Though from what I've looked nobody has the details on any site that I've found. Which makes me wonder if it's severely locked down.
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got my details using wireshark, quite easy to find
 
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