Router Replacement

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Last year, I bought 3 Deco E4s. They have a 100mbps ethernet port, which was fine for my situation. Now I have 150mbps FTTC, and I'm likely to get full fibre when my contract expires in 2 years. There's also a chance it'll go over 1gbit. We pay an extraordinary amount of money for slow internet because it keeps the landline around. When landlines are retired in 2 years (which is the only way to stop the elderly using them), we may pay less for 1gbit, or the same for 3.

I'm in London, so it'll probably be Community Fibre. I currently use EE, and their Home Hub which uses Wifi AC. I thought of connecting a Deco M4 or M5 to the router, then using the E4s wirelessly, but I considered 2 things: the M4 and E4 are AC. A wifi 6 router would have bigger range, maybe making them redundant. Secondly, the 1gbit port on the M4 might bottleneck me in the future the way the E4 did.

Honestly, my mesh routers have been a letdown. They're slow to switch and I'm not getting the range I want. Plus the 3rd one feels redundant, and my stuff's so close to the main router, the upstairs one seems pointless too.

My phone and PC now have wifi 6e, but the cheapest 6E router, the Tenda AXE5700, is called slow, unreliable and potentially backdoored. Then there's the LTT video where he says at the end that his phones stayed on 5ghz, refusing to switch to 6ghz. I'm considering a better, cheaper, faster wifi 6 router. Budget for 6E was £100, but I'd probably be looking at £50 for a 6.

What's mandatory though are 2 things: parent controls and a guest network, controllable through an app that multiple people can log into. If it's TP-link, it can't have Homeshield Pro. HSP has a bunch of parent controls gated off with a subscription service. I bought a TP-link router with HSP, and couldn't believe they wanted me to pay for stuff my E4 did for free. You had slightly more fine-tuning, but nothing worthy of paying extra after you already bought the router.
 
A decent single hardwired AP mounted centrally upstairs on the ceiling is often more than enough for an average UK house. Then whichever router takes your fancy and you won’t have to rely on its Wi-Fi, or get a decent one without Wi-Fi such as Firewalla. Then it doesn’t matter which ISP you use and you can switch between providers and change the WAN settings only.
 
Hmm. Are there options without DIY?

The problem is running the cable from the living room to upstairs. I've tried powerline, but it's unreliable through my old house. Sometimes it's slower than my old WiFi. Then there's where to plug it. If I want it central like the smoke alarm, it'll have to use the hallway plug.
 
If you can't hardwire ethernet and either a PoE injector, or PoE switch, then you're stuck with a mesh system. You should look for one which has a dedicated wireless channel for backhaul, so that it is not using half of the bandwidth which clients use to maintain its own backhaul. That is likely the issue you have been facing already.
 
TP-Link's Deco doesn't offer much settings to allow you to properly tune it. I was happily running the more expensive X60 set until 5GHz became more crowded in my area, and I couldn't change things like WiFi channel, width, etc. If you have a look at the Asus range they'll give you more control.

Just a heads up, you don't need WiFi 6 and 6e to make full use of 150mb GFast, on WiFi 5 I can see it peak to ~560mb odd on a gigabit line. If you do however change to FTTP in future, regular 6 gets pretty close to gigabit, I would only consider 6e if you do plan to go beyond that. But if you're waiting for your contract to end in a couple of years, WiFi 7 will be more common then.
 
TP-Link's Deco doesn't offer much settings to allow you to properly tune it. I was happily running the more expensive X60 set until 5GHz became more crowded in my area, and I couldn't change things like WiFi channel, width, etc. If you have a look at the Asus range they'll give you more control.

Just a heads up, you don't need WiFi 6 and 6e to make full use of 150mb GFast, on WiFi 5 I can see it peak to ~560mb odd on a gigabit line. If you do however change to FTTP in future, regular 6 gets pretty close to gigabit, I would only consider 6e if you do plan to go beyond that. But if you're waiting for your contract to end in a couple of years, WiFi 7 will be more common then.
Thanks. Does Asus come with app-based parents' controls and monitoring? I had one years ago that did guest networks, so I guess that's there.

ChrisD said the mesh was using too much bandwidth for backhaul, so I'm considering ditching mesh for the next 2 years. Who knows what'll happen in 2 years, but for now my decos get 80mbps while the ee hub gets 120.

Will any decent £50 WiFi 6 or even £25 WiFi 5 be enough to get me through? I know you said 6 is unnecessary for gfast, but there's a 300mbps gfast+ or whatever, that they may throw us on before the 2 years expires.
 
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Thanks. Does Asus come with app-based parents' controls and monitoring? I had one years ago that did guest networks, so I guess that's there.

ChrisD said the mesh was using too much bandwidth for backhaul, so I'm considering ditching mesh for the next 2 years. Who knows what'll happen in 2 years, but for now my decos get 80mbps while the ee hub gets 120.

Will any decent £50 WiFi 6 or even £25 WiFi 5 be enough to get me through? I know you said 6 is unnecessary for gfast, but there's a 300mbps gfast+ or whatever, that they may throw us on before the 2 years expires.
I haven't used an Asus for a good while but I believe there is parental controls.

They mentioned getting one with dedicated backhaul, which the E4 I believe don't do that since it's a budget mesh system. So make sure whatever new system you get next offers this to maximise speed. Some even allow ethernet backhaul, which is something to consider if you do eventually wire up the place.

5 is still fine for 300mb, providing you don't have too many wireless devices trying to use max speed most of the time, but I would go with 6 anyway for some of the extra features (eg MU-MIMO can help with congestion if you have a lot of wireless devices trying to access the network). 6E definitely is not needed yet until you go more than gigabit.
 
Thanks. Does Asus come with app-based parents' controls and monitoring? I had one years ago that did guest networks, so I guess that's there.

ChrisD said the mesh was using too much bandwidth for backhaul, so I'm considering ditching mesh for the next 2 years. Who knows what'll happen in 2 years, but for now my decos get 80mbps while the ee hub gets 120.

Will any decent £50 WiFi 6 or even £25 WiFi 5 be enough to get me through? I know you said 6 is unnecessary for gfast, but there's a 300mbps gfast+ or whatever, that they may throw us on before the 2 years expires.
The best router Ive found for simple and effective parental control is Synology and its SRM. It does Mesh and the routers seem solid, but I picked it for the SRM software more than anything else.
 
I've had a quick blast through this thread.

I have learnt over the years that you can't really fix poor WiFi by adding more WiFi.

I had the same issue, old house, chunky walls etc etc.

Ended up running a single cable from the downstairs front corner to the upstairs opposite corner, around the edge of the rooms and up the side of the staircase.

It took a day to do it in such a way that you wouldn't know it was there unless you were looking for it.

I have 2 xt8 with wired back haul and the WiFi in my gaff is perfect.

No dead spots, no poor signal.
 
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