Royal Mail Rant

SexyGreyFox

SexyGreyFox

SexyGreyFox

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For about 5 years at least all the delivery companies have my safeplace as the blue bin behind our gates, this has been a zero problem except for the off times somebody doesn't read the safeplace instructions and puts it on the step or takes it back.
Yesterday Royal Mail bloke rings bell, looks at the bin but takes it away.
Today I'm more prepared and talks to him on my doorbell camera.
"I'm sorry I can't put it in the bin, AI will detect it and I'll get a reprimand" :) WTF?
"Can you please just put it in the bin just like 100s of delivery drivers before you?"
"I can put it under the bin but not in the bin, I'll get told off" - 1 minute later "I've put it behind the bin but be aware it's raining".

WTF?

Are there any Royal Mail staff here who can verify what he's saying, especially the AI nonsense?
 
Kenai said:
Whether the AI thing is true I have no idea but it is Royal Mail policy that a bin is not considered a 'safe place' and they won't/shouldn't accept that as an instruction.
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So why have I just updated my safe place a month ago with 'inside the bin' and their wonderful AI hasn't detected it :)

 
Minusorange said:
Says blue is for paper but in my council blue is for plastic/cans/glass
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Same here but mine is behind a locked gate so no council worker is going to take the bin away.
It's worked with all of them for well over 5 years except this idiot today.
So the parcel was put in between the bin and the fence :)
I also have 3x CCTV cameras covering it.

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Werewolf said:
As a couple of others have said, that's irrelevant given he's under strict instructions NOT to do that, and ignoring that could lead to him losing his job. Most people aren't going to risk their job by going against strict company policy for someone they probably don't know.

Also how does he know that the gate is locked and that it's not going to get put out without someone checking it before the bin is next due to be emptied.

I remember when people were absolutely outraged that Hermes were putting stuff in people's recycling bins and the like.
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Because I told him over the doorbell, I told him the gate is locked, the bin is going nowhere and there's 3 cameras.
That's when he came back and said "I can put it under the bin but not in the bin".
I told him to put it under and then he came back and said he'd put it behind the bin.
 
Vulcan said:
So he has to push the top of the bin to try and get the bottom to lift up? Then push the package underneath, leaving the bin resting on the one wheel, more susceptible to the wind blowing it over, or you being malicious and claiming it was damaged by the bin being on top of it. Yeah I can see why he just put it behind. It isn't worth his job.

Get a parcel box.
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I'm 67 and did it easy peasy.
Anyway, I'm not having a go at him for putting it behind the bin, seems like you've misread something.
You asked how could he get it under the bin, it was his original suggestion and then he decided not to.
 
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Anyway, my rant was answered on posts #5 & #6 with links.
Nobody has explained the AI bit of picking a parcel up in a bin and how the AI distinguishes between a cardboard/can bin compared to a Parcel Safe bin :)
 
wesimmo said:
It's pretty impressive how quickly it's improving its accuracy. I'd imagine spotting the various types of wheelie bin used in the Uk is fairly trivial.
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but how does the Royal Mail know that parcel has been put in a wheelie bin unless they put special sensors/chips on the packaging?
I still have the packaging, I could rip it apart to see if Royal Mail are putting sensors on them.
And once inside a dark bin how does it know it's not a Parcel Safe box?
Will it have laser scanners and then go "Oh dear there is a tin of tomato soup in here, I'm reprimanding the Postie" :)
 
beachBOYken said:
Of the bin? no not really, but thanks.
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Yes they 'cover' the bin.
Garage camera points at it.
Doorbell can see somebody approach it.
Front camera can see somebody standing by it.

I don't know what's hard to understand.
Those three cameras also 'cover' my drive and car.
 
DXP55 said:
I like your fence - I have the exact same panels in the same colour.
Best thing I ever fittedl;.:)
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Mrs Sexy said a few months ago "Don't forget you've got to paint the fences this year" and I thought "Not at my age and disabilities" :)
I had to buy 42 panels altogether but well worth it.
 
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