Problem with GCN is utilising the width of the pipelines - I'm not sure if AMD think if they build it that way people will adopt it (in a break the system kind of way) or labouring under the conviction that it is again and again a case of "just around the next corner - any day now" when developers will progress to that kind of approach. AFAIK there is nothing particularly wrong with the architecture itself just the implementation is going down a path pretty much no one else really is following.
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RTG boss takes 'sabbatical'
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Problem with GCN is utilising the width of the pipelines - I'm not sure if AMD think if they build it that way people will adopt it (in a break the system kind of way) or labouring under the conviction that it is again and again a case of "just around the next corner - any day now" when developers will progress to that kind of approach. AFAIK there is nothing particularly wrong with the architecture itself just the implementation is going down a path pretty much no one else really is following.
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No they didn't, £640 is the RRP. Anything higher than that for the AIO is not 'AMDs price.'
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Tbh pricing is a total mess at £640+ the AIO is far too close to the Ti in terms of price but nowhere near in terms of performance
And therein lies the problem.
At best it can be a recommendation to free sync owners. It doesn't stand on its own two feet.
This is a classic stepping down into a more suitable role move and that's only being done for one reason. That isn't the success of Vega.
You could say the same about the AIO cooled GTX1080's.
There is of course the caveat that if you are looking to buy a new GPU today and intend to replace your non adaptive sync monitor with an adaptive sync one during ownership of said GPU then Vega is again a no-brainer.
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Not really needed on the 1080 as they run so cool, but they're def handy on the Ti's.
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When things like this happen, they need to be very clear as to why they are leaving there post if there is a positive reason.
Well...
Seems the memo was pretty clear ^^. But that isn't very interesting so everyone is going with their own, self-convinced reason as to why he is taking a vacation. The difficult part is that this specific excuse has been used in the past by other companies to allow a VIP to transition quietly to another place so no one believes these kind of messages any more. However, if it is true, this is how the memo would look like regardless. So we can't be sure what will happen until he returns from his vacation/"vacation" and see what the result will be.
1080's don't need fancy water cooling though to hit their true potential. For Vega water cooling is a must if you want it's full potential.
Define "true potential". If it is speed and hardcore performance, any chip will perform faster with more cooling. Just how physics work. The true potential(in terms of speed vs. thermals vs. power consumption) of Vega lies in tweaking the settings of your Wattman profile. Just wait for AIB to have a fair comparison with any 1080. The partners will be able to tweak the card based on their cooling. First signs of Asus Strix are promising
The 1080 FE will throttle out of the box unless you raise the fan profile just like the V64 does.
I get that Nvidia fans like hating on AMD (and vice versa) but claiming the Vega AIO model is trash because it costs as much as a 1080ti but performs like a 1080, while giving a free pass to the 1080 AIO models when they also cost as much as a 1080ti and perform like a 1080, is just dumb.
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I think this is all about saving face, He's taking a break and it's possible when he get's back we'll be told he's back and busy working on the Navi architecture which is where he needs to be.
I don't know anything about what architectures he developed in the past but he's meant to be good at it so that's where he's needed.
If that's true it means certain people in the know lied and every reviewer who made a video on the how they'd made their last Vega video's recommendation based on what was a limited time price was wrong.
I went for the cheapest non reference 1080 I could find which was the MSI Armor and it handles the temps & the noise very well. I thought it was doing well in the high 70's but then realised that I hadn't put my rear exhaust fan back in after removing the Vega AIO so I did that and now temps are a bit lower in the loe to mid 70's with the fan and clocks all on the out of the box settings.
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Can't remember mine doing that tbh, you got bad case airflow?
I think I may have caused some confusion, I'm not saying the card will reach 90c and throttle down to 200MHz. I'm saying under high load the card will reach 80c and not boost as high as it can with a custom fan curve set in Afterburner (just like the V64).
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That didn't relate to the AIO version.
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and its pretty sad, all the people raging still at pricing/how bad the cards are how late they are etc etc on every post created in the gfx section.
Even in an 'i am having a holiday post' your lives must be so poor to keep whining on about it.
and its pretty sad, all the people raging still at pricing/how bad the cards are how late they are etc etc on every post created in the gfx section.
Even in an 'i am having a holiday post' your lives must be so poor to keep whining on about it.
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Yeah. If they were able to hit the £500 price point, I would be rocking one if my system right now. Hell, I was even close to buying on launch but greedy buggers only offered 2 year warranty on top of the ridiculous price. Way I see it, if I am going to get shafted, might as well get the performance to go with it, hence the situation I am in now moving over to nvidia.
Would have never predicted this would happen 12 months ago. Well disappointed if I am honest.
I hope when Raja comes back he is mainly left to do the engineering side of things. Dr Su can take over some of his duties that are more paperwork etc to let him actually get on with the engineering work. We really need Navi to do better than Vega. I do not want to see nvidia increasing their lead even further.
I agree with what shank's said, since Raja has come a lot of things have improved due to his vision. We need to be a bit more patient so we can see the fruits of his work hardware wise in Navi and the architecture after that.