RTX 2060 Scenario

Nicholas1011999

Nicholas1011999

Nicholas1011999

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Hi guys,

New to the forum and to this whole pc thing as it is.
I'll cut to the chase.
These are my specs:

Intel quad core 15 2400 3.1ghz
motherboard intel DQ67SW
6GB rtx 2060
500GB Hard drive
8gb ddr3 ram

I know the rtx is bottlenecked.
What should I replace first etc.
Budget for the whole thing shouldn't exceed £500.

Cheers!
 
On the 7th of July buy a Ryzen 5 3600, an MSI B450 Tomahawk or Mortar motherboard, 16GB DDR4 3000 or 3200MHz RAM, and an SSD. That will leave you enough change for a decent PSU. :)
 
Journey said:
On the 7th of July buy a Ryzen 5 3600, an MSI B450 Tomahawk or Mortar motherboard, 16GB DDR4 3000 or 3200MHz RAM, and an SSD. That will leave you enough change for a decent PSU. :)
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@Journey

think it's only the Carbon AC that has ability to flash without CPU and RAM.
any other board without knowing bios is on it , easier to go Gigabyte and have them flash it for free
Know latest leaks on X470 didn't allow overclocking on the 3600 chip. guessing latest bios should allow that but will have to double check- told a few friends NOT to update bios till its out and new ones are released.

at £500 should be able to get x570 board hopefully and take full advantage of ram and design

Used Z390 elite for rough price of X570 Gaming X.
overclock samsung b-die 3200hz ram to 3600hz using ryzen ram calculator
using 2600x as rough price for 3600 non X and overclock it !

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orbitalwalsh said:
think it's only the Carbon AC that has ability to flash without CPU and RAM.
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They all have it, and the MSI boards are way better than the Gigabyte ones, especially the VRM. :)


CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor
Motherboard: MSI - B450M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 C15 Memory
Storage: Corsair - MP510 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power

All for less than £500, don't waste your money on RAM that is almost 100% more expensive, when you can get Crucial E-die kits for so cheap.
 
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Journey said:
They all have it, and the MSI boards are way better than the Gigabyte ones, especially the VRM. :)
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just seen! damn handy ! just a shame their CS and rma is pants. Carbon will sell out FAST! OP- be on the ball!!!!!

Have a feeling reseller can creep price up a few pounds if they were smart! Just hope AMD dont cap the overclocking abilities for b450/x470 boards. If AMD were smart, they would via AGESA since vendors now buy X570 directly from AMD and not 3rd parties . Have AMD finally caught up to INTEL marketing ....

just a shame 4 layer PCB :( wondering what cheapest 6 layer x570 will be priced at to get damn good ram speed and timings

Journey said:
All for less than £500, don't waste your money on RAM that is almost 100% more expensive, when you can get Crucial E-die kits for so cheap.
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its the question of the B450 boards being able to push 3733hz which is recommend by AMD to get the most out of the chip.
have a feeling RAM wouldn't be a big deal with 8 core chip by 12 will be , then again wouldn't run 12 cores on 4 basic VRMs when x570 boards you have 10 minimum

You can most likely get Z390 £109 board and 9600k with price drop for £200 along with 2400hz ram - gaming by the looks of it will still favour intel but needs to be clocked at 5ghz.
 
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orbitalwalsh said:
its the question of the B450 boards being able to push 3733hz which is recommend by AMD to get the most out of the chip.
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Considering I've ran some at 3600MHz on a terrible ASRock board, with a 2700, I don't think 3733MHz would be that hard.

However lets be slightly more realistic here, the OP has £500 for a full upgrade other than the GPU. Spending 100% more on an X570, and 80-100% more on RAM, will give a few % points of performance, all the while he couldn't switch on the PC as he doesn't have a PSU. :p

Think about the performance per £ spent, and where you are wasting those £'s for tiny, tiny gains.
 
Journey said:
Storage: Corsair - MP510 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive

All for less than £500
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SSD could be changed to SATA signaled Crucial MX500/WD Blue 3D for some extra loose in other part slection.



orbitalwalsh said:
just a shame their CS and rma is pants.
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While Asus is all marketing and lots of cheaped garbage VRM unless paying arm and leg...
And getting BIOS Flashback needs selling also other leg and half the internal organs.
Then Gigabyte doesn't even have Flashback.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/bvfo57/list_of_b350_b450_x370_and_x470_motherboards_with/

Though instead of higher efficiency integrated powerstages, MSI uses old design separate high and low side FETs and drivers in VRM.

It's like everyone has wanted to avoid giving up to date design and features in reasonable price and guess X570 mobos again go off the charts in VRM and price...
 
@EsaT aye, Gigabyte dropped ball on that one when z270 boards did ... make NO sense - then again prob why the push hard on here that they'll collect a customers board to flash for free and send back or sent staff to resellers to MAKE sure boards are flash etc .

wouldn't say avoid up to date, ASUS and Aorus use state of the art TDA 70amp units, granted slightly older 1472 then 1475 which has slightly bette thermals and high operating temps , and then flagships have 16 phase controllers on them .

guessing end of the day, marketing ... LOTs of phases on entry boards that can Just handle 16 cores overclocked AVX loads will sell, regardless if they'll run hotter. Makes you wonder what z470 boards are like come Q4/Q1 next year ....


Journey said:
Considering I've ran some at 3600MHz on a terrible ASRock board, with a 2700, I don't think 3733MHz would be that hard.

However lets be slightly more realistic here, the OP has £500 for a full upgrade other than the GPU. Spending 100% more on an X570, and 80-100% more on RAM, will give a few % points of performance, all the while he couldn't switch on the PC as he doesn't have a PSU. :p

Think about the performance per £ spent, and where you are wasting those £'s for tiny, tiny gains.
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OP already has parts , and RTX 2060 :)

and with the case of ram... why not just run b450 on 2133 hz ram if ryzen only gives few % increase , £50 for 16gb of 2133hz :D for few fps lower then 3000hz etc.
3600hz can be had for £80 - just depends if B450 lanes can handle cheaper ram kits that arent samsung B die or Micron E

- wondering what screen they have lol.

just have to wait and see what AMD has done with AGESA - x470 aorus 7 bios shouldn't of been capped for overclocking - manual should have worked regardless of PBO not working for new cpu's yet ...

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Only £10 difference now, NVMe drives are due to hit price parity with SATA based drives by Q4 this year.
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get the feeling nvme production is in full swing now ! adoption rate being pushed faster then that of hdd to ssd way back when
 
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orbitalwalsh said:
OP already has parts , and RTX 2060 :)

and with the case of ram... why not just run b450 on 2133 hz ram if ryzen only gives few % increase , £50 for 16gb of 2133hz :D for few fps lower then 3000hz etc.
3600hz can be had for £80 - just depends if B450 lanes can handle cheaper ram kits that arent samsung B die or Micron E
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Now you are just being silly, there are sizeable benefits up to around 2933-3200Mhz on current gen Zen/Zen+.

£135, vs £75 for RAM that is the same speed. I've built so many Ryzen systems, and with the Zen+ based CPU's even ones with terrible boards, hitting 3000MHz has been zero effort. I also don't understand why you wouldn't just opt to get the E-die kit, they are freely available in bulk at cheap prices, they can't really be gouged since Crucial sell them direct if you want ;)

Don't be blinded by marketing and hype, no one 'needs' an X570 to use a 3600/X or 3700X, you also need to see what if any headroom the CPU's actually have once they are on the shelves, it might be as bad as the 9900K where you can get 2% if lucky, which is 100Mhz btw. :)
 
@Journey there is good difference with ryzen 3000 from 3000hz to 3733hz ;), im just not allowed to say it. along with rx 5700 performance , though @Plec already spotted that one lol

^^^ now thats AMD marketing in full swing .

3000hz is easy enough on any b450 board,specially ryzen calculator helps tighten the timings or loosen enough.
though still nothing really beats B-Die 3200hz at CL 10 if your lucky enough. Ryzen 3000 IMC should hopefully bring it to intel levels

8 and 6 cores , your right. should be fine- just dont constantly update the bios as you'll run out of space! wondering if b450 will support Zen 4*** .

Journey said:
Don't be blinded by marketing and hype, no one 'needs' an X570 to use a 3600/X or 3700X, you also need to see what if any headroom the CPU's actually have once they are on the shelves, it might be as bad as the 9900K where you can get 2% if lucky, which is 100Mhz btw. :)
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careful with words....
For someone looking to run AVX loads its a must, and a fast people do (just not on this forum)
AVX performance has doubled , though 99% of people on here don't, it'll be that One Percent will quote you on it lol...

Indeed you've nailed it on the head with marketing. AMD confirming zen 4 isn't AM4 socket just before zen2 release. lol all could see it coming though , and no one ever believed it being future proof and long life socket. certain member that tooted AM4 as being future proof and zen2 being the best thing since sliced bread is going to have a melt down at this !! haha
 
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Plec said:
It's ingrained in me to read small print :D
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I think it was esat I was saying about DDR5 with zen 4 . All unsure ryzen 4000/zen 3 having it 2020 but Def 2021 with Zen4 to be told servers adopt it first and would be years for DDR5 to comes to desk top.. well 1 year and Zen4 on new AM socket :)
 
orbitalwalsh said:
careful with words....
For someone looking to run AVX loads its a must, and a fast people do (just not on this forum)
AVX performance has doubled , though 99% of people on here don't, it'll be that One Percent will quote you on it lol...
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I was careful with my words, even if you used the heaviest AVX workload then the outcome would be the CPU down clocking/the VRM's throttling back if not cooled correctly. I am pretty sure that if you are using a CPU at its rated out of the box speed then any decent B450 board, or X470 board would do the same job as the X570. If you wanted to put the 3950X on them then it might be slightly more difficult to achieve.

Anyhow this thread is moving off-topic, the OP seems as if they play games, we've done all we can to help for now. :)
 
Hey guys,

Cheers for all the help, as for the monitor I have I think it dates back to the 1980s. Yeah it'll mostly be for games etc bit of work crunching numbers etc.

I'll take all the suggestions on board!

Once again, Cheers!
 
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