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RTX 3090 DLSS quality vs 7900 XT native vs wait

Nexus18 said:
He will.

Unless he is happy to settle for locked 60 fps with some settings reduced, I imagine he'll want to get as close to the 100hz/fps as possible though and he defo will need it for 4k/60
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Maybe with RT, without the XT is perfectly capable of high FPS in many games. E.g. at the more demanding 4K res:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-7900-xt-pulse/30.html

Fair enough if you're talking the very latest crop of titles, but the OP ruled out the very top cards and even they can't provide 100fps at 4k in some.

Having said that I don't disagree with waiting, it just depends on how long the OP can last on the 5700 XT. It's still pretty capable but that resolution is taxing.
 
Kirby Wurm said:
Maybe with RT, without the XT is perfectly capable of high FPS in many games. E.g. at the more demanding 4K res:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-7900-xt-pulse/30.html

Fair enough if you're talking the very latest crop of titles, but the OP ruled out the very top cards and even they can't provide 100fps at 4k in some.

Having said that I don't disagree with waiting, it just depends on how long the OP can last on the 5700 XT. It's still pretty capable but that resolution is taxing.
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Those are what I am referring to, forspoken, hogwarts, the last of us, dead space remake etc.
 
The used market is almost worse than the new market and that is saying something. Given a choice between a used card and a new one with roughly equal performance(i'm doing the 3090 a huge favor here) and a small saving of 100 pounds, I wouldn't touch the used one with a ten foot pole. No warranty, no idea of what it has been used for. I would need to save at least 40% on the purchase going with a used card with a questionable history and no warranty vs equal performance from a new current gen and that is not happening in this current market. I'd rather wait then tbh.

@Nexus18 Could you clarify what is it about FSR and ultrawide that is so bad? genuinely curious as I use it atm when playing RDR2 on my 3440x1440 panel.
 
Phixsator said:
@Nexus18 Could you clarify what is it about FSR and ultrawide that is so bad? genuinely curious as I use it atm when playing RDR2 on my 3440x1440 panel.
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Decent video here:


It's not that it's "bad", it's just not in the same league as dlss imo and for me, is well worth paying the extra to get a consistently good experience.

In my experience, FSR 2 biggest issue is when it comes to overall image stability i.e. shimmering, aliasing, weird ghosting/trailing, I think a lot of these are enhanced further though since FSR relies on sharpening to bring it's initial clarity back up where as DLSS doesn't need any sharpening.

e.g. here are 2 examples, one from TLOU and RDR 2 (this was a while ago so maybe it is fixed)



That and with games getting more demanding these days, the higher presets such as balanced and performance mode are required more often and FSR is "bad" here when compared to DLSS especially when playing at res. less than 4k.

Also, a nice bonus with nvidia when using DLSS is DLDSR if you have the grunt or/and are playing a less demanding game, IQ is vastly improved.
 
fs123 said:
A new card has 3 year warranty which is worth a lot more than the saving of £150. Far too risky buying a used 3090 which may have been used for mining.
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totally, no doubt there are companies that will try to weasle out of an rma but no warranty will leave you up **** creek with no recourse when something dies, double out of pocket when you realise and then have to buy a replacement :D
 
fs123 said:
A new card has 3 year warranty which is worth a lot more than the saving of £150. Far too risky buying a used 3090 which may have been used for mining.
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100% agreed. I’ve had to use warranty recently on both my 4090 FE and my Nitro 7900 XT both within a couple of months and barely any use on either. One was replaced the other refunded. There’s no way I would spent over £500 on a card without warranty now.

Plus, the 7900 XT is faster than a 3090.
 
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Joxeon said:
If you can get a 3090 for under £650 that would be a pretty good deal in the current climate, I've also seen 7900XTs starting around £760. Both would offer over double the fps a 5700XT puts out.
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Yeah I've seen some 3090s at that price but variously described as "with corrosion" as ex mining cards.

 
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Tetras said:
For £100 less? No thanks, even if the 3090 does have a bit stronger ray tracing, it still isn't good enough that it'll handle games at high resolution in a few years. 4K max settings + RTX in Hogwarts was only just above 30 fps (video).
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Hogwarts Legacy graphic settings and RT implementation are broken as **** - in most cases high settings with a small mix of ultra looks way better than all ultra and RT is a mess - reflections are a poor effort and missing in many places where RT reflections would make all the difference, shadows are broken and done wrong and AO is glitchy - I wouldn't use the game as a benchmark for much really :( would love to see it have a proper ground up path tracing implementation.
 
Joxeon said:
Just get one that still has a couple of years warranty left and make sure the seller includes the receipt.
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A warranty usually isn't transferable even if you have the receipt. You could lie about being the original owner and say you moved address but it's not guaranteed to work.
 
Thanks for the responses. I think I'm just going to wait it out for now, but will be keeping a close eye on the 7900 XTs and 3090s for a deal I can't resist.

At least I'm not at all tempted by the 4070 or 4070 Ti given the likelihood they'd run out of VRAM on day one on my humble 4K60 and UW1440p displays.
 
Try DLAA with Geforce Now (or a friend with an Nvidia GPU) and see what you think of that. FSR in Cyberpunk is quite good overall but it has a LOT of shimmering & edge-line crawl so if you hate that then it can be quite distracting, but DLSS handles it better (and XeSS too now, but that's heavy on the ghosting as a trade-off).

 
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Humming and harring about this, 3090FE at the second hand place that has a two year warranty or a Sapphire 7900XT Pulse new from here. Both about the same sort of price. The Radeon will game better and is new but the Nvidia has some features like CUDA that I could make use of but really just for messing around with...
 
Xelene said:
Humming and harring about this, 3090FE at the second hand place that has a two year warranty or a Sapphire 7900XT Pulse new from here. Both about the same sort of price. The Radeon will game better and is new but the Nvidia has some features like CUDA that I could make use of but really just for messing around with...
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I'd take the new card. Did I read someone say you can rent server time quite cheaply if you want to mess around with CUDA etc?
 
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