Rubbish CSS FPS on 8800 640.

allllec · 26 Apr 2008 at 17:29

Right, got my 8800 GTS 640mb today.

Done all the business with uninstalling the onboard hefore 6150 drivers. shut down. put in the new card. booted up. installed drivers latest etc.

Played some games. They all ran exactly how i'd expect (crysis, denied ops, eve). So all seemed well. until i booted up CSS. no matter what the settings Im getting around 15-30fps. I've tryed playing around with CSS settings, completely reinstalling it etc. Nothing seems to help. Even tryed beta drivers to no avail.

Any ideas?

Its Vista x64 as well.

cheers

alec

TheRedZealot · 26 Apr 2008 at 17:45

What CPU have you got?

I was getting 80fps average with an 8800gt and an E2180@Stock but when i OCed my E2180 to 3.2Ghz i now get 140Fps. (Source engine is CPU limited)

allllec · 26 Apr 2008 at 17:47

3600+ so i dont expect anything great. but i had the same cpu with x1950 and it ran at 60fps (with vsync).

Tom2k8 · 26 Apr 2008 at 17:49

Bottlekneck?

allllec · 26 Apr 2008 at 17:55

Like I just said, yes my CPU will be a bottleneck at a point. But not at 30fps

Robert · 26 Apr 2008 at 18:01

Have you tried the max fps command?

allllec · 26 Apr 2008 at 18:10

Yeah, not that.

Not anything in the config I don't think. (As I said reinstalled so everything went back to default).

I'm thinking its a driver / driver option issue.

Just installed an older driver. Again nothings changed.

Might have to bite the bullet and reinstall windows! :eek:

Blackhawk47 · 26 Apr 2008 at 18:41

i dont think reinstalling windows is the answer. but yes it will be your cpu holding you back (single core right?)

psychas · 26 Apr 2008 at 18:47

wow how u managed combine pentium 2 with 8800 gt

joking emm its definetly something wrong in your system and + u running 16aa 16 af? i guess ?

Nymins · 26 Apr 2008 at 18:48

The CPU will do no favours for you. It doesn't make a difference if the X1950 ran well with it, the 8800 will totally bottleneck under it.

Have you tried fully and i mean fully, deleting Steam altogether, even every source file that isn't linked to CSS and tried reinstalling? If you just deleted CSS from the Steam GUI, then it wont have deleted the source files.

allllec · 26 Apr 2008 at 20:07

Blackhawk47 said:
i dont think reinstalling windows is the answer. but yes it will be your cpu holding you back (single core right?)

1.9 AM2 Dual Core. Clocked at 2.3

psychas said:
wow how u managed combine pentium 2 with 8800 gt joking emm its definetly something wrong in your system and + u running 16aa 16 af? i guess ?

I'd like too. But I'm not. I've, for now, turned every option to the lowest possible setting. And the FPS doesn't change one bit.

Nymins said:
The CPU will do no favours for you. It doesn't make a difference if the X1950 ran well with it, the 8800 will totally bottleneck under it.

Have you tried fully and i mean fully, deleting Steam altogether, even every source file that isn't linked to CSS and tried reinstalling? If you just deleted CSS from the Steam GUI, then it wont have deleted the source files.

Yeah I know. But What I'm saying is. More powerful card + same cpu. Therefore performance should be at the very least exactly the same no?

I haven't, I just deleted CSS folder to get rid of all my configs and stuff (very old).

I shall uninstall it all properly shortly and see what happens.

Devil_Spawn · 26 Apr 2008 at 21:32

the source engine doesnt really scale well with dual cores. its probably the cpu that is killing your frames

HangTime · 26 Apr 2008 at 21:57

That doesn't matter, there's just no way that an A64 at 2.3ghz (dual core or otherwise) should be getting those framerates on lowest possible settings with a GTS640.

Blackhawk47 · 26 Apr 2008 at 22:44

hmmm this is a bit odd ... its definatly a case of bottleneck. cpu cant keep up with graphics so it has to throttle or slow down. my specs are in my sig and im getting 80fps average , maxed out on css.

have you sorted out your rates recently ?

in console type these

rate 30000
cl_cmdrate 100
cl_cmdrate 100

report back

Stellios · 26 Apr 2008 at 22:53

Rates shouldnt matter about FPS.

allllec · 27 Apr 2008 at 11:21

Rates make no difference.

Nor does a complete reinstall of Steam + CSS.

What I'm going to do now is stick on a ghost image of my previous XP install (has correct drivers on it). And see what happens. If it works then I will reinstall Vista. If that dosent fix it looks like I'm stuck on XP for a while!

Tom2k8 · 27 Apr 2008 at 12:26

Well, I used to run a Pentium 4 3.00Ghz with an X1950 Pro. In css, I would get about 20-30 FPS on all high settings, turning down the settings didn't help the FPS at all.

I did everything, bought a new PSU, new ram.... In the end I just built a complete new PC with a C2D CPU (E4600) and now it runs CSS perfect.

IMHO it's your CPU that's causing the problems.

Dark_Angel · 27 Apr 2008 at 13:34

Simple suggestion would be try down clocking your CPU to default (or even lower) and see if that hurts your FPS more.

allllec · 27 Apr 2008 at 14:07

Fixed it.

Reinstall of vista worked a charm (Had to do it anyway). Can only assume it was some kind of driver issue or something.

60fps dropping to 40fps~ish in big firefights. With everything on top wack (well apart from HDR becuase it looks crap imo (not that i play and HDR enabled maps)) @ 1680*1050.

Regardless of CPU i knew something wasn't right so I'm well chuffed it's sorted

Thanks for your help

ta

alec

Blackhawk47 · 27 Apr 2008 at 15:34

probably a driver conflict with your old onboard thing.