Ryzen 2 and b350

[passifid]

Had anyone tried b350 boards like the Rog one with second gen ryzen.. anything negative also any improvmimim to memory speeds

 

[pastymuncher]

One problem would be that if it is a new build the new cpu probably won't work in the board without a bios flash and for that you would need access to a 1st gen Ryzen cpu or wait for one of AMD's bios flashing kits.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

depends on your board not sure if @AMDMatt could give word if a user on here bought B350 + ryzen 2600/700/x chip could they qualify to have Boot kit to flash it if bios on there loaded doesn't support the chip?

Believe gigabte @GIGA-Man, are able to flash the board for customers, know this as case for the APUs (2200g/2400g) but worth checking ?

 

[Doogles]

I don't know why more motherboards don't allow the Asus Flashback style of updating BIOS, it would solve all these headaches we've had for decades.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

I don't know why more motherboards don't allow the Asus Flashback style of updating BIOS, it would solve all these headaches we've had for decades.

i think few other vendors do... problem is... flashship models were to be fair, people do constantly update their bios . im guessing board design costs a bit to be able to set up bios update without ram or CPU

 

[Doogles]

i think few other vendors do... problem is... flashship models were to be fair, people do constantly update their bios . im guessing board design costs a bit to be able to set up bios update without ram or CPU

I know what you are saying about it costing more for the feature but after all this time you'd have thought something like Flashback would become fairly mainstream on any board costing £80+ that could be used with newer CPU's.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

I know what you are saying about it costing more for the feature but after all this time you'd have thought something like Flashback would become fairly mainstream on any board costing £80+ that could be used with newer CPU's.

few, or bios chips designed to slot into a socket. might make life easier placed like OCUK offering bios chips flashed and you just rip out the old and slot the new without soldering

 

[Doogles]

few, or bios chips designed to slot into a socket. might make life easier placed like OCUK offering bios chips flashed and you just rip out the old and slot the new without soldering

Yeah socketed BIOS chips would be great, you can buy them on ebay now however you need to be good with a soldering iron

 

[pastymuncher]

Asus boards still have removeable bios chips which is a bonus for things like this.

 

[chrcoluk]

I know what you are saying about it costing more for the feature but after all this time you'd have thought something like Flashback would become fairly mainstream on any board costing £80+ that could be used with newer CPU's.

it should do but as always the beancounters probably block it stating it will trash high end board sales if these features were spread around.

I remember about 5 or so years back JJ in an asus vid when asked by paul said asus would do things like onboard power and reset buttons across their entire product portfolio, instead things went the other way, like now the q connector is high end boards only, capacitors are lower spec than 5 years ago, and some bios features got caught on mainstream asus boards as well.

 

[Smoogels]

I put a 2700X in my B350 Strix which previously had a 1700 that is now in another system.

With a CM 212 Evo it boosts between 4-4.05GHz on all cores (27C ambient) with stock settings.

Still could not boot past 2933MHz with my Corsair (Hynix) RAM. The 2700X didn't improve memory stability on my B350 Strix board.

Have since swapped the B350 Strix for a X470 Crosshair and the RAM now runs at 3200MHz with XMP.

I was pretty happy with the Strix overall though, didn't seem to have any problems with the 2700X. Would have kept it if it wasn't destined for another system

 

[HangTime]

it should do but as always the beancounters probably block it stating it will trash high end board sales if these features were spread around.

I remember about 5 or so years back JJ in an asus vid when asked by paul said asus would do things like onboard power and reset buttons across their entire product portfolio, instead things went the other way, like now the q connector is high end boards only, capacitors are lower spec than 5 years ago, and some bios features got caught on mainstream asus boards as well.

Kicking around in a drawer somewhere here I've got two cheap-ish mobos with those features:
-DFI Lanparty NF4 Ultra-D (physical power/reset switches, great not to have to faff about when testing mobo outside the case) which cost £99
-Asus P5N-E SLI (Q-connector, much less fiddly to wire up power switches, LEDs etc) which cost £70 iirc

Bit of shame well over 10 years later that things like that aren't standard, instead my Asus Prime B350 Plus board which cost £80 has silly 'breathing' lighting effects which are of no practical value whatsoever.

 

[EdButler]

I put a 2700X in my B350 Strix which previously had a 1700 that is now in another system.

With a CM 212 Evo it boosts between 4-4.05GHz on all cores (27C ambient) with stock settings.

Still could not boot past 2933MHz with my Corsair (Hynix) RAM. The 2700X didn't improve memory stability on my B350 Strix board.

Have since swapped the B350 Strix for a X470 Crosshair and the RAM now runs at 3200MHz with XMP.

I was pretty happy with the Strix overall though, didn't seem to have any problems with the 2700X. Would have kept it if it wasn't destined for another system

Great info, thanks

 

[orbitalwalsh]

https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_ma...n_users_with_boot_kits_to_update_their_bios/1