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Ryzen "2" ?

chroniclard said:
In that specific situation it might be twice as fast.
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The IPC difference between even Ryzen 1### and Coffeelake is minimal, yes add higher clock rates on top of that and you have a higher performance CPU, of course you do, as i said i have no doubt that he found higher higher dips in frame rates in that area and probably other area's of the game on the 1600 vs the 8600K.

But "My 8600k was more than double that in the same situation" (55 vs 120) no.... that doesn't add up.
 
humbug said:
The IPC difference between even Ryzen 1### and Coffeelake is minimal, yes add higher clock rates on top of that and you have a higher performance CPU, of course you do, as i said i have no doubt that he found higher higher dips in frame rates in that area and probably other area's of the game on the 1600 vs the 8600K.

But "My 8600k was more than double that in the same situation" (55 vs 120) no.... that doesn't add up.
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Again, IMO this is the same thing that's been pulled from this ass....

prjwebb said:
Ryzen still struggles in certain situations in certain games though. The extremely low combined scores in Firestrike are still proof of that.
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"The extremely low combined scores"

Turns out that's 6% to the very best 5.3Ghz 8700K....

humbug said:
Ya, more hyperbole.....

Your 2700X @ 4.2Ghz

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The best 8700K at 5.3Ghz

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So for 26% higher clocks (4.2Ghz vs 5.3Ghz) the 8700K scores 6% higher.

That actually leaves me feeling far more impressed with what the 2700X achieved.
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humbug said:
Again, IMO this is the same thing that's been pulled from this ass....

"The extremely low combined scores"

Turns out that's 6% to the very best 5.3Ghz 8700K....
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If you look at the Physics score as well that same 5.3Ghz 8700K only gains 2.2%..........................;)
 
Only option to check would be... Someone with 8 series cpu go there and have a look init??

I can actually bealive it tbh seen **** like that happen.
 
Don't encourage him. I can have a screenshot of any FPS both because a screenie is trivial to take and because fluctuations in FPS combined with careful timing can tell any story I like.
 
I'm thinking the game is pretty cheap these days, i think recording that part of the game with Shadowplay might be useful. Because, yeah, screenshots are like benchmark bar charts, meaningless but good for misleading the virtue of one over the other.

I have a 1600.
 
Yeah i mean i looked around to get the lowest fps in the area i could on both platforms. In the end it was what made my decision to go intel rather than dropping a 2600x into my current rig.
 
Insert meme "... Squabbling Intensifies!!!!"

So, bottom line is now then systems are extremely close in performance and it really doesn't matter which you get anymore. Excellent.

I hope AMD can keep up the momentum, and I look forward to getting a Ryzen 2 or 3 unless Intel come out with something killer.
 
prjwebb said:
My Firestrike score with 8600k is nearly 12k....
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/15466128

vs my best Ryzen combined

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/12963874
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Hmm.... yeah you posting that has not done you any favors, you see the thing is
kitfit1 said:
If you call a difference of 417 in the combined score of my 2700x and the only 8700K above mine, then you really are "straw clutching". Even more so when both cpu's have combined scores of over 7000 and the 8700K had to clocked to 5.3Ghz as well.


  1. 18165, GFX Score 18392, TitanV Air Cooled, Physics Score 36408, CPU 7980XE @4.8 Water Cooled - Kaapstad - Link
  2. 15295, GFX Score 15870, TitanP Water Cooled, Physics Score 28066, CPU 6950X @4.444 Water Cooled - Kaapstad - Link
  3. 15123, GFX Score 15767, TitanP Water Cooled, Physics Score 26260, CPU 6950X @4.2 Water Cooled - Vore - Link
  4. 15038, GFX Score 16239, TitanP Water Cooled, Physics Score 19312, CPU 6800k @4.3 Water Cooled - Gudu55 - Link
  5. 14998, GFX Score 15881, 1080 Ti Water Cooled, Physics Score 23073, CPU 8700k @5.3 Water Cooled - Radox-0 - Link
  6. 14852, GFX Score 15963, TitanP Water Cooled, Physics Score 19657, CPU 6800k @4.5 Water Cooled - darket - Link
  7. 14820, GFX Score 15708, TitanP Air Cooled, Physics Score 21671, CPU 5960X @4.6 Water Cooled - spiralz - Link
  8. 14710, GFX Score 15569, TitanP Air Cooled, Physics Score 21803, CPU 5960X @4.5 Water Cooled - Combat Fighter - Link
  9. 14668, GFX Score 15118, 1080 Ti Water Cooled, Physics Score 29610, CPU RZ1950X @3.9 Water Cooled - amigafan2003 - Link
  10. 14582, GFX Score 16023, TitanXP Air Cooled, Physics Score 20929, CPU RZ1800X @4.0 Air Cooled - Dicehunter - Link
  11. 14481, GFX Score 15762, TitanP Air Cooled, Physics Score 22840, CPU 6900k @4.2 Water Cooled - whyscotty - Link
  12. 14456, GFX Score 15781, 1080 Ti Air Cooled, Physics Score 17547, CPU 5930k @4.5 Water Cooled - tyler_jrb - Link
  13. 14453, GFX Score 15351, 1080 Ti Air Cooled, Physics Score 22570, CPU RZ2700X @4.2 Water Cooled - kitfit1 - Link
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They are all linked, your apparent score there is 40% higher than the fastest 8700K, 30% higher than the fastest 7980XE, your 8600K score there is way way way above any Intel CPU, way above the very fastest Intel CPU's, Kaap's 7980XE only managed 9K, how do you explain 12K on your 8600K against that?
The best 8700K managed 7.5K, How do you explain that?

And this says a lot, i think about the rest of your rhetoric.
 
@amigafan2003 his 8600K combined score is 40% higher than the best 8700K combined score.

Even Kaapstand's Titan-V (Volta) with an i9 7980XE is miles short of his combined score, its fake.
 
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