Ryzen "2" ?

Yaayuh! · 5 Apr 2018 at 20:17

pastymuncher said:
Any chance some of you guys can post up some overclocked Ryzen single core cinebench R15 scores please?

Scougar · 5 Apr 2018 at 20:26

LOLN1 said:
first problem
Dynamic Vcore does not work
In the BIOS I set the maximum possible CpuVcore 1.225v + Dynamic Vcore 0.3v
I have a maximum of 1.3 v (it should be 1.53 / 1.55v)
With 1.3v I can do the tests at 4075 mhz full core
Now I have a fixed voltage of 1.38v I can not reduce this voltage

Honestly, I would do a hard reset of the CMOS. Most of the overclocking problems I encountered with the Ryzen platform (glitches/bugs) came down to the BIOS screwing up somehow, and needing to be reset (and unfortunately, put all those settings in again).

LOLN1 · 5 Apr 2018 at 20:52

Martini1991 · 5 Apr 2018 at 21:00

That Cinebench doesn't do much to get me hyped lol.
What's your memory settings?

Zeed · 5 Apr 2018 at 21:14

LOLN1 said:

Thanks What I wanted to see

Zen+ is finally VERY GOOD

@Martini1991 i assume its same as before 3200cl14

kitfit1 · 5 Apr 2018 at 21:15

pastymuncher said:
Any chance some of you guys can post up some overclocked Ryzen single core cinebench R15 scores please?

LOLN1 · 5 Apr 2018 at 21:16

3200mhz c14

Zeed · 5 Apr 2018 at 21:18

Looking at Your's score then at 4.3 it should get to around 182-185 mark with more super tunning i think 190 is possible

DragonQ · 5 Apr 2018 at 21:21

The Cinebench result is exactly where it should be given 0% IPC change, not sure why people are fussing over it since we've expected this to be the case for a while. Only clocking to 4.175 GHz is far more interesting and worrying.

Martini1991 · 5 Apr 2018 at 21:25

DragonQ said:
The Cinebench result is exactly where it should be given 0% IPC change, not sure why people are fussing over it since we've expected this to be the case for a while. Only clocking to 4.175 GHz is far more interesting and worrying.

Humbug's been telling us there's IPC improvements

Ryzen 2 might literally just be AMD's Kabylake.

Zeed · 5 Apr 2018 at 21:25

DragonQ said:
The Cinebench result is exactly where it should be given 0% IPC change, not sure why people are fussing over it since we've expected this to be the case for a while. Only clocking to 4.175 GHz is far more interesting and worrying.

Wel You seen 2700x with 4.30 so i assume 4.35@8 cores is a go

Zeed · 5 Apr 2018 at 21:27

Martini1991 said:
Humbug's been telling us there's IPC improvements

Ryzen 2 might literally just be AMD's Kabylake.

I was not expecting Any IPC improvement after scores from MT benchmark where 1700 was same score as 2700x give or take.
IPC is not needed on ryzen its ahead of intel but needed mor MHZ and thats what we are getting

just read this
https://www.globalfoundries.com/new...-technology-for-high-performance-applications

Knew Months ago not to expect epic jumps when HF posted this they said 10%
If im not wrong 4ghz+10% is 4.4ghz

More interested how much better IMC is

Yaayuh! · 5 Apr 2018 at 21:27

Martini1991 said:
Ryzen 2 might literally just be AMD's Kabylake.

Indeed. The real deal comes in 2019.

Don’t expect much this time round.

Martini1991 · 5 Apr 2018 at 21:29

Zeed said:
I was not expecting Any IPC improvement after scores from MT benchmark where 1700 was same score as 2700x give or take.
IPC is not needed on ryzen its ahead of intel but needed mor MHZ and thats what we are getting

IPC on Ryzen's not ahead of Intel. This gets skewed somewhat when they're running 100% as AMD's SMT is better than HT. But physical core for physical core they're behind.

We never used to say an i7 has higher IPC than an i5 of the same generation. So I find it a fallacy to try and make an IPC comparison when using HT versus SMT. But obviously it can't be ignored as performance is the important factor. I just find using a phrase like IPC for that scenario to be wrong.

Ryzen's IPC is fine, but ideally you want Ryzen 2 to clock to 4.4-4.6 rather than say ~4.2

Zeed · 5 Apr 2018 at 21:32

Martini1991 said:
IPC on Ryzen's not ahead of Intel. This gets skewed somewhat when they're running 100% as AMD's SMT is better than HT. But physical core for physical core they're behind.

Well would be great if anyone with 8700 could bench ST performance at same 4175 as this Zen+ for comparrison.

Also if IMC is better there is sensible amount of IPC's to gain on ryzen from gouing 3600cl14 if it can do that

humbug · 5 Apr 2018 at 21:32

Martini1991 said:
Humbug's been telling us there's IPC improvements

Ryzen 2 might literally just be AMD's Kabylake.

Oh #### no don't joke like that, it tends to become fact with some people around here and the next thing i know i have people screaming at me that i said this and that....

Zeed · 5 Apr 2018 at 21:32

Rossi~ said:
Indeed. The real deal comes in 2019.

Don’t expect much this time round.

Well Its a thing both of us can agree

ITs what I expected up to 10% not less not more.

humbug · 5 Apr 2018 at 21:34

Zeed said:
Well would be great if anyone with 8700 could bench ST performance at same 4175 as this Zen+ for comparrison.

Also if IMC is better there is sensible amount of IPC's to gain on ryzen from gouing 3600cl14 if it can do that

Me and Gavin made a comparison with my CPU and his 8700K at the same clock rate, he scored 1.2% higher than me

Zeed · 5 Apr 2018 at 21:35

humbug said:
Me and Gavin made a comparison with my CPU and his 8700K at the same clock rate, he scored 1.2% higher than me

I assume with faster memory it would be tie or You would pass him

I seen some epic scores with 3466cl14 on ryzen much ahead of me. But my IMC/CPU cant pull that with 3950 stable. Think seen 2 stable 3600cl14 on zen 1 also very lucky chip and memory kit

Using Gskill 3600cl15 kit other one using Gskill 4266 kit

Martini1991 · 5 Apr 2018 at 21:35

humbug said:
Me and Gavin made a comparison with my CPU and his 8700K at the same clock rate, he scored 1.2% higher than me?

In ST? Because I doubt that.