Ryzen 2600 and 2600X enquiry.

[Davanius]

Does anyone know why my 2600 is slightly outperforming my 2600X in games especially when it comes to in game benchmarks regarding the CPU render numbers in 1080p?

2600, Gigabyte Aorus B450 Pro, Corsair 3200 LPX Mhz ram. 3725 Mhz CPU boost. RX 580.

2600X, Msi B450 Tomahawk, Corsair 3000 Mhz RGB PRO ram. 4 Ghz CPU boost, no PBO. RTX 2060.

Shadow of the tomb raider bench.

2600. 163 average CPU render.
2600X 151 average CPU render.

Gears 4 bench.

2600. 205.9 average CPU render.
2600X. 128 average CPU render.

2600 CPU temp is 50c.
2600X CPU is 73c.

Voltage is on auto for both.

2600. 1.18 volts.
2600X 1.38 volts

Both VRM temps are in the low 50's.

I can't get my head around it. Does anyone else have an idea as to what's happening?

Cheers!

 

[Davanius]

Literally on paper ,the two variables going against the x is slower memory ,and maybe temperature throttling..

Would 200 Mhz slower memory really cause that?

 

[Davanius]

Is RTX on, on the 2060?

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[Davanius]

You have 3dmark benches for both?

I have ran Fire strike and the 2600 scores 16,677 with the 2600X getting 17,568 in physics.

Timings are important too. Not just the main ones, but the secondary and tertiary ones. Most of those are set by the motherboard and can vary a lot between manufacturers. Not to mention other vendor-specific quirks that often arise, with regards to things like voltages.

If you really want to get to the bottom of it, the best thing you could do would be to swap the CPUs. I'd wager the 2600X would be on top once placed into the Gigabyte board.

The Gigabyte board was set to XMP with the LPX ram without issue but the Tomahawk board didn't have the correct settings with the any of the XMP profiles for the RGB PRO ram. I had to set it up manually.

I did come across a video on Youtube benching with different ram speeds and it made a difference to frame rate. So maybe ram really is making the difference here when it comes to CPU render in games. I just don't know for sure.

 

[Davanius]

Do you have links to them?

Here they are. I had to run the 2600 again after making an account and the score is slightly higher this time.

2600X
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19972870

2600.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37985123?

 

[Davanius]

It seems the Msi Tomahawk board doesn't like either memory modules as much as the Gigabyte board does.

I ran both sets of memory on both boards and got high CPU render scores on the Gigabyte.

The Tomahawk board scored a lot lower even with the LPX 3200 ram.

Considering getting rid of the Tomahawk now.

The Ryzen 3000 series bios debacle by MSi is also not great either.

I am also noticing stuttering on the Tomahawk setup.