Ryzen 3600 Overclocking

[R3v4n]

What is everyones experience with OCing the 3600/3600X?

I can't even get 4.4 all core stable on my 3600X, even at 1.45V, it will crash 8 out of 10 timespy runs lol.

I'm almost at the point of PBO and forget about it (currently on PBO enhanced 4, auto OC, +200 boost clocks).

Ryzen Master SS -

https://ibb.co/J78vP3d

Temps and everything also seems super erratic lol (I'm on an X62 Kraken so doesn't get hot per say it just bounces up and down like a yoyo).

I also use the "Ryzen High Performance" power plan.

 

[LeMson]

Don't bother, just let it do its own boosting and power saving thing

 

[humbug]

What is everyones experience with OCing the 3600/3600X?

I can't even get 4.4 all core stable on my 3600X, even at 1.45V, it will crash 8 out of 10 timespy runs lol.

I'm almost at the point of PBO and forget about it (currently on PBO enhanced 4, auto OC, +200 boost clocks).

Ryzen Master SS -

https://ibb.co/J78vP3d

Temps and everything also seems super erratic lol (I'm on an X62 Kraken so doesn't get hot per say it just bounces up and down like a yoyo).

I also use the "Ryzen High Performance" power plan.

If it wont clock it wont clock, 4.4Ghz would be good for a 3600X, they are not high clocking CPU's.

As for the cooler ramping up and down, you should set your own fan curve in the BIOS, set it so that its doesn't ramp the fans up until it get's to 65c or something like that, some motherboards also have a delay timer, you can set a delay on when the fans are ramped up, 3 seconds, 5 seconds... that might help with wiring up and down of the noise.

 

[R3v4n]

If it wont clock it wont clock, 4.4Ghz would be good for a 3600X, they are not high clocking CPU's.

As for the cooler ramping up and down, you should set your own fan curve in the BIOS, set it so that its doesn't ramp the fans up until it get's to 65c or something like that, some motherboards also have a delay timer, you can set a delay on when the fans are ramped up, 3 seconds, 5 seconds... that might help with wiring up and down of the noise.

Hmm yeah good point, I'll check the fan curve settings in BIOS later on tonight. Thanks!

 

[JayKob]

What is the CPU manufacturing date? It's written on the CPU so if you didn't make a note, too late now (unless you want to take CPU cooler off). Some of the earlier ones overclocked very poorly, I have an earlier batch 3600. Gave up at trying to get above 4.1 stable, the voltage needed was already too high for my liking. Also, doesn't help I am using older chipset motherboard.

 

[humbug]

I would also plug the pump header into the CPU_OPT and set it to run 100% all the time, with it you're always moving the water around, PWM controlled the water can sit in the block.

 

[pc-guy]

What is everyones experience with OCing the 3600/3600X?

I can't even get 4.4 all core stable on my 3600X, even at 1.45V, it will crash 8 out of 10 timespy runs lol.

I'm almost at the point of PBO and forget about it (currently on PBO enhanced 4, auto OC, +200 boost clocks).

Ryzen Master SS -

https://ibb.co/J78vP3d

Temps and everything also seems super erratic lol (I'm on an X62 Kraken so doesn't get hot per say it just bounces up and down like a yoyo).

I also use the "Ryzen High Performance" power plan.

not all core on the zen 2 can stay at 4.4GHz the lesser cores will be much lower only the good cores can stay at 4.4GHz consistently and some can go higher. but if you just use PBO the CPU will manage boost by itself.

 

[R3v4n]

not all core on the zen 2 can stay at 4.4GHz the lesser cores will be much lower only the good cores can stay at 4.4GHz consistently and some can go higher. but if you just use PBO the CPU will manage boost by itself.

I would also plug the pump header into the CPU_OPT and set it to run 100% all the time, with it you're always moving the water around, PWM controlled the water can sit in the block.

Ah nice ok I'll look into this as well.

I also ran a CTR on my 3600X last night, apparently it's a bronze sample, so the chip is just crap I guess, probably why I could never get a decent OC. Max recommended value was like 1350mv at 4175 all core.

I thought the whole point of a 3600X over a 3600 is that it's pre binned, feels like a scam from AMD on that one, since my chip is the lowest quality per say.

What is the CPU manufacturing date? It's written on the CPU so if you didn't make a note, too late now (unless you want to take CPU cooler off). Some of the earlier ones overclocked very poorly, I have an earlier batch 3600. Gave up at trying to get above 4.1 stable, the voltage needed was already too high for my liking. Also, doesn't help I am using older chipset motherboard.

Mine is definitely an early one I bought it summer 2019 I believe. And based on it being "bronze sample" I assume it is a poor overclocker. I've never managed much above 4.1 either certainly never 4.4 or 4.6 like I've seen some people get on here

 

[Phunky]

I've been impressed with my 3600 which I bought a few weeks ago. Currently stable a 4450mhz with an 1.225v using a aftermarket air cooler and temps are very low (but I am in a very cold basement!), i've yet to see how much I could get with a higher voltage as it's working great now.

 

[JayKob]

Ah nice ok I'll look into this as well.

I also ran a CTR on my 3600X last night, apparently it's a bronze sample, so the chip is just crap I guess, probably why I could never get a decent OC. Max recommended value was like 1350mv at 4175 all core.

I thought the whole point of a 3600X over a 3600 is that it's pre binned, feels like a scam from AMD on that one, since my chip is the lowest quality per say.



Mine is definitely an early one I bought it summer 2019 I believe. And based on it being "bronze sample" I assume it is a poor overclocker. I've never managed much above 4.1 either certainly never 4.4 or 4.6 like I've seen some people get on here

If I recall correctly, the early reviews when Ryzen 3000 came out had similar issues. The stable all core overclock was less than single core with precision boost.

As others in the thread have said, it's not worth the effort. Just leave it on stock with PBO enabled.

I've been impressed with my 3600 which I bought a few weeks ago. Currently stable a 4450mhz with an 1.225v using a aftermarket air cooler and temps are very low (but I am in a very cold basement!), i've yet to see how much I could get with a higher voltage as it's working great now.

It does seem like TSMC/AMD were able to improve the manufacturing process so that later in product cycle the silicon quality improved. Or you had a greater probability of receiving a higher quality silicon chip. Don't have any hard evidence on this, just overclocking results of what others have posted online.

 

[pc-guy]

Ah nice ok I'll look into this as well.

I also ran a CTR on my 3600X last night, apparently it's a bronze sample, so the chip is just crap I guess, probably why I could never get a decent OC. Max recommended value was like 1350mv at 4175 all core.

I thought the whole point of a 3600X over a 3600 is that it's pre binned, feels like a scam from AMD on that one, since my chip is the lowest quality per say.



Mine is definitely an early one I bought it summer 2019 I believe. And based on it being "bronze sample" I assume it is a poor overclocker. I've never managed much above 4.1 either certainly never 4.4 or 4.6 like I've seen some people get on here

I wouldn’t rely on the rating from that software. It is buggy as hell and really only works on ASUS board. I have had MSI, ASUS and Gigabyte boards and only ASUS board has that program worked flawlessly. All other brand it runs into trouble.

the guy who wrote the program also uses ASUS board so I suspect there must be something in that.

Anyway, RCT is pointless with PBO basically. Only really useful for zen and Zen+ as they don’t have PBO and requires manual OC to get higher than spec frequencies.

 

[Joxeon]

I've been impressed with my 3600 which I bought a few weeks ago. Currently stable a 4450mhz with an 1.225v using a aftermarket air cooler and temps are very low (but I am in a very cold basement!), i've yet to see how much I could get with a higher voltage as it's working great now.

My early release 3600 would only just about do 4.2 with 1.35v and even then I’d get the odd reboot so the silicons definitely come a long way.