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5 years ago (! time flies) I upgraded my kids PC with the above guts, plus 16Gb 3000Mhz Team Force Ram, new BeQuiet case, sensible PSU.
He is 16, passed his GCSEs and has been working and is looking to upgrade (using his money).
Gaming PC - Siege, Rayman, Fortnite, RDR, etc

I am thinking that with a Bios upgrade to T52d/ F52h (on about F40 already), I can put in either a

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core 4.6GHz (Socket AM4) OR a​

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core 4.7GHz (Socket AM4)​

Q1 - Is this process a straight swap - no other messing about?
Q2 - Any other CPU better value?

Then upgrade his GPU to a 4070.

Gainward GeForce RTX 4070 Ghost 12GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card​


I can do this for about £800 and a new OCUK machine with those components is £1600. As his money trying not to go mad and stay around the 800 mark.
Been a while since upgrading and often stuck with NVidia - but would a Radeon be a better option now. Looking at GPU comparisons the 3060Ti or 4060 dont appear to be a sufficient upgrade to last another 5 years. Would look to sell CPU and GPU to offset. Not enough posts for MM...
Monitor is MSI G273Q (2k with 165 refresh).

Please help me and him!
Thanks
 
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have a look at this comparison, the specs are paired with a 4080...so gives an idea of how the 5800x3d could stretch its legs vs the 5600(x)

if it were my money, i'd pair the 5600(x) with no more than a 6800xt/3080/4070 performance class card
5800x3d would handle up to the 4080/7900xt(x)

you'd also want 32gb ram in a 2x16gb configuration and a psu that will handle the gpu upgrade if you haven't got a decent psu already
 
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EViLHomer48 said:
Q1 - Is this process a straight swap - no other messing about?
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Yes.

EViLHomer48 said:
Q2 - Any other CPU better value?
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I can't keep up, prices/deals seem to be changing all the time.

Right now, I would say that the 5600X and 5800X are worse value than the 5600 non-X and 5700X.

A 5600 non-X around £120 (or less), I'd consider decent, same with the 5700X around £150. If the 5800X is anywhere close to £200, I would say it is bad value, since you might as well just go the whole way and buy a 5800X3D.

EViLHomer48 said:
Been a while since upgrading and often stuck with NVidia - but would a Radeon be a better option now. Looking at GPU comparisons the 3060Ti or 4060 dont appear to be a sufficient upgrade to last another 5 years.
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We have a few days to go and can compare the new AMD cards with the 4070, so I wouldn't buy one yet.
 
OK do decision made on the 5800X3D for the CPU, do I need a cooler (using Wraith at mo)?
What is happening with the new Radeon cards? I can sort the Bios, CPU and potentially RAM as first £300 step.
Thanks for advice so far
 
As @Tetras says, hold off on GPU until at least 6 September ( I think the release dates of the new AMD GPUs which we are hoping will range from £450-£500). You will probably need a cooler and this is a great one for less than £50 Peerless Assassin.

You probablt need to explain a little more about your PSU. The Nvidia draws about 200w, the new AMD expected about 240w-265w so you will ned enough headroom to run those and the other components. 650w bare min and 750+ is better
 
Thanks for help, so after a small heart attack finding two bent pins on the Ryzen and straightening those up and then finding the Peerless Assassin provides much less room in the case for fat fingers.
The CPU upgrade to Ryzen 7 5800 X3D went well (forgot I needed to boot into BIOS as it recognised the new chip and needing to change ftm?)....

Now waiting on whether need to go to 32Gb RAM and new GPU.
Really appreciate the help
 
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