Ryzen Wraith Stealth Cooler

Double07 · 2 Apr 2019 at 14:28

I bought a Ryzen 5 2600 which has the Wraith Stealth as the stock cooler included and so I went ahead and fire it into the new MB (MSI Tomahawk B450) and fired up the PC expecting the "hahah I never post first time" screen. Or the blank look my gf gives me when I ask her, well anything.....

Anyway it boots fine first time, Windows sorts itself from my previous install (i5-4690k), and away we go. I dont have any experience with AMD since way back when so I just leave things as they are settings wise and see where we are at. First things first is temps, around 45 idle and 70+ish at stress seemed a wee bit high to me but what do I know.

I did a load of other benchmarks but essentially the CPU was on a par with my 4690k gaming wise (although the Intel can be amazing at times) and destroyed it elsewhere (it's old), as expected. Temps were a lot higher than Intel, but then I did have an aftermarket cooler as anyone who buys a K series processor would. Not a great one tough, a CM Hyper 212 EVO, you know bog standard.

I plod along with the stock cooler, cause nothing is amiss but then a weird noise starts coming from my case, im thinking new CPU/fan lets have a look at these. I have reference points but they are all internet based. So i take some rudimentary readings and then think Ill use my old EVO 212. Reseat and resinstall the Ryzen with stock cooler, same deal.

Oh well it doesn't have an AM4 bracket but f'it I say, Ill just see what its like seated with new thermal paste and the like for reference. Turns out its still miles cooler, about 10, approaching 15 degrees at idle. easily 10 under load. This is an UNSEATED heat-sink/fan set on very low RPM. Temp wise its night and day against an ancient and not very expensive AM cooler, but noise (currently 30C)? The noise is still there! Hence its a GPU fan problem and that I shall take elsewhere!

Does anyone else have similar experience with the stock 2600 cooler being SO bad, cooling wise, really liking the chip given what I paid. ? I was willing to let it slide as hey its just me, ive changed platforms and im not sure of what to expect.

Danny75 · 2 Apr 2019 at 14:44

The 2600 cooler is worse than the one that came with the 1600 and it's been commented by others on the forums. The 2600X cooler is better. That said, did you try setting a custom fan profile at all? You should find that in the Hardware Monitor section of the BIOS.

I've placed a Hyper 212 on a CPU unseated as well, just for a quick test. The weight alone pretty much achieves near the same cooling.

One thing to note with those MSI boards is that they can ramp up the fan a lot after you enable XMP for the memory (some kind of auto-overclocking/cooling feature, which seldom tend to be great), so always best to set custom fan profile after enabling XMP.

Overlag · 3 Apr 2019 at 01:46

70c stress isnt bad

Rroff · 3 Apr 2019 at 01:53

Yeah the 2600 cooler is pretty basic but it keeps temperatures within reasonable limits even if a little warm - I wouldn't say it is a problem for stock operation.

chrcoluk · 3 Apr 2019 at 03:34

The 2600X cooler is quite a bit better than the 2600 model, copper plate and more metal, the difference is enough that it can mean not having to buy a after market cooler vs buying one, which in my view makes the 2600X a better buy hence me getting it over the 2600.

Its not as good as aftermarket, but its not miles off a mid range after market air cooler (40-60 price range).

My 2600X idles in 30s in windows, and is about 50-60 under load, low 40s under load without XFR (perhaps emulating 2600 TDP). That is with the shipped 2600X cooler with its shipped thermal compound, I wish I put on some thermal grizzly now tho kinda regret that. The cooler was a bitch to install (way harder than expected for a stock cooler), it was hard enough that I expect if I were to remove it to reapply paste then the board would have to come out for the cooler to be reinstalled.

willhub · 3 Apr 2019 at 15:13

My 1600 runs at low 30s idle and about 66 load, 1.38V 3.7GHZ is that good?

chrcoluk · 3 Apr 2019 at 17:11

compared to 2600X thats poor, but its likely a lower binned chip (been a non X) and a generation older.

The 2600X can run 3.6ghz at just 1.08v. (only 100mhz down on your 3.7).

Double07 · 6 Apr 2019 at 22:47

Now I feel like a bit of a plonker as I have retried the stock cooler now that I have ripped everything out of the case and the performance is quite a bit better so the real issue has clearly been the airflow in my case, which is pretty crap and old so that makes sense. The CM one is still cooler, which makes sense, but it's certainly different enough to the previous performance to say it's almost certainly my case and not the fault of the cooler itself. My bad

doyll · 7 Apr 2019 at 15:41

Double07 said:
Now I feel like a bit of a plonker as I have retried the stock cooler now that I have ripped everything out of the case and the performance is quite a bit better so the real issue has clearly been the airflow in my case, which is pretty crap and old so that makes sense. The CM one is still cooler, which makes sense, but it's certainly different enough to the previous performance to say it's almost certainly my case and not the fault of the cooler itself. My bad

Most aftermarket coolers are an upgrade to stock CPU coolers, so no reason to feel you did anything wrong.

Keep in mind H212 is about as basic an aftermarket cooler as there is and you say it is out-performing the stock cooler.

Double07 · 7 Apr 2019 at 17:32

doyll said:
Most aftermarket coolers are an upgrade to stock CPU coolers, so no reason to feel you did anything wrong.

Keep in mind H212 is about as basic an aftermarket cooler as there is and you say it is out-performing the stock cooler.

Yeah I know it's a pretty guff AM cooler as they go but it's certainly better than the stock Intel fan that came with my 4690k and given that I was pretty skint at the time (got a good deal on the CPU) I just bought what I could afford. Having realised that it was actually my fault, and fiddled with stuff the stock cooler is actually pretty decent.

Looks like it's time to post in the cases section and get some recommendations for a new case that I can't really afford either

I should just stick with my SNES classic really, much cheaper.