Ryzen9 3950X v Ryzen 9 5950X Difference ?

[Matrix]

Hi

Hoping someone might be able to give me some advice on this please .

My friend s wanting to purchase a new cpu to run multiple virtual machines. I myself run a threadripper 2nd gen for this .

I've been looking at the cpu's and see that you can't seem to get hold of the 5950X but i can get hold of a 3950X. Is there a lot of difference between the cpu's ? both at 16 core 32 threads which he's wanting .

Thank you .

 

[Journey]

Every core and thread on the 5950X is worth 1.2 cores/threads on the 3950x. Rounded to the nearest 10th.

 

[Grim5]

If you find a cheap 3950x get that

the 5950x is about 10% faster in multi thread load so don't pay more than 10% over the 3950x price

the entire 5000 series was designed for gaming, that's where all the improvements went to, for work there are minor differences and a second hand 3000 series would make more sense if you can get a good price. I sold my 3950x for 70% of the 5950x price

 

[Matrix]

Every core and thread on the 5950X is worth 1.2 cores/threads on the 3950x. Rounded to the nearest 10th.

Thanks for your reply

If you find a cheap 3950x get that

the 5950x is about 10% faster in multi thread load so don't pay more than 10% over the 3950x price

the entire 5000 series was designed for gaming, that's where all the improvements went to, for work there are minor differences and a second hand 3000 series would make more sense if you can get a good price. I sold my 3950x for 70% of the 5950x price

Thanks fro your reply , yeah this won't be a games machine at all just a machine to run virtual machines running stripped back windows on them .

I have found the 3950X for around £650 .

 

[Journey]

I have found the 3950X for around £650 .

That's pretty expensive, maybe buy a cheap 3900x, and drop in the 5950x in a few months when the stock is towards normal and they are back at the standard price.

 

[kitfit1]

That's pretty expensive, maybe buy a cheap 3900x, and drop in the 5950x in a few months when the stock is towards normal and they are back at the standard price.

I wouldn't say that's expensive at all. On release the 3950x was £749.99, considering most retailers have no stock of 3950x's at the moment £650 is more than a good price.

 

[Cooler running]

I wouldn't say that's expensive at all. On release the 3950x was £749.99, considering most retailers have no stock of 3950x's at the moment £650 is more than a good price.

That's the going rate for an open box or lightly used chip. OCUK currently have 5 of them at this price in the B grade section:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/b-gr...hz-socket-am4-processor-retail-bg-12n-am.html

Although I personally believe the -950x CPU's are a waste of money. The only good reason to have more than 12 cores is if you're planning on running VM's, or running a small number of specific thread bound workloads that can't run on GPU's.
In that case going with a workstation or server socket like TR4 makes more sense, as you can run in with more RAM and with more RAM channels.

 

[Grim5]

That's the going rate for an open box or lightly used chip. OCUK currently have 5 of them at this price in the B grade section:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/b-gr...hz-socket-am4-processor-retail-bg-12n-am.html

Although I personally believe the -950x CPU's are a waste of money. The only good reason to have more than 12 cores is if you're planning on running VM's, or running a small number of specific thread bound workloads that can't run on GPU's.
In that case going with a workstation or server socket like TR4 makes more sense, as you can run in with more RAM and with more RAM channels.

OP said he needs the cores for VM's. Not sure on memory requirements, you can still get a fair bit into the AM4 platform at a cheaper price

 

[Cooler running]

OP said he needs the cores for VM's

I know, I just don't think it's a good platform for it

Not sure on memory requirements, you can still get a fair bit into the AM4 platform at a cheaper price

Depends on what you're trying to achieve, I personally avoid consumer RAM when building a server. At least with my Ryzen based server build it ended up being a pain collecting all the pro-sumer kit to run a setup like this with ECC.

I'm also of the opinion that if you're happy dropping the cash on a 5950x, value for money has already gone out the window, as you're buying an expensive part to use for your homelab.

 

[TonyTurbo78]

I've got a 3950x now, the thing is a beast of a cpu to be fair, I'm shocked how good it even is for gaming

I had a 5900x on order since December 2nd, I waited until mid Feb and just gave up. Wanted a more core chip for more production work than gaming, but even for gaming it's fantastic and thats coming from a 8700k at 5.1ghz.

 

[MANFACE]

I've got a 3950x now, the thing is a beast of a cpu to be fair, I'm shocked how good it even is for gaming

I had a 5900x on order since December 2nd, I waited until mid Feb and just gave up. Wanted a more core chip for more production work than gaming, but even for gaming it's fantastic and thats coming from a 8700k at 5.1ghz.

I've got the 3950X from a 2700X, purely for gaming.
3950X is a beast, stick with it.

 

[Grim5]

I've got a 3950x now, the thing is a beast of a cpu to be fair, I'm shocked how good it even is for gaming

I had a 5900x on order since December 2nd, I waited until mid Feb and just gave up. Wanted a more core chip for more production work than gaming, but even for gaming it's fantastic and thats coming from a 8700k at 5.1ghz.

I also moved from a overclocked 8700k to 3950x and yeah the 3950x is great. It's not faster for games than the 8700k (unless it's a heavy multithreaded game) but it is about on par with the 8700k so for me the benefit was still having great game performance and having nearly triple the cores