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S.754 - 3000 Venice v 3700 Claw - Best O'C?

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Need Help deciding between the 3000 Venice core and the 3700 Claw.

Venice 2g + 512 L2 cache
Claw 2.4g + 1m L2 cache

Have read that an extra 512 difference in L2 cache equates to approx .2ghz in performance.

Using this , I would need to o'clock the Venice to 2.6ghz to be on a par with the 2.4 Claw ?

Reports say that the Venice will go to 2.7 o'clocked , so this would equal a 3700 Claw at 2.5 ghz.

So , what has anyone o'clocked their 3700 Claw to ?

A 2.5 o'c from a 2.4 processor doesn't seem unreasonable

Please post any benchies to help me decide.

Thanks
 
A2Z said:
Ok well firstly 3000 Venice is socket 939, not 754.

Secondly its 1.8ghz at stock, not 2 like you have put.

jus thought i would clear that up first :p
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lol your wrong....

there are new S754 venices :) and they are 2ghz too
 
Hi there, i have had my 3700+ running at 2.645ghz without even trying. Only had it a few days so not found its limit yet. Not benched it at that speed yet either. I dropped the multi to 11x and overclocked the fsb to 230mhz which gave me 2.53ghz and got the scores in my siggy. I then upped the multi to 11.5x just to see if it would boot and it booted easily with no problems and ran windows stable. I am going to try for 2.7ghz later in the week. Too busy playing Quake 4 at the mo. Thats at stock voltage too. I saw somebody on here had a 3700+ on water up to 2.827ghz at 1.7v.
 
i too have a 3700 claw on water - it will do 2.75 prime stable - but won't budge an inch above that even with silly volts.

however (and this is a big however) i'm currently in the beginnings of some kind of negotiation with an overseas friend of mine who lives in a country where they sell the "AMN4000BKX5BU". Could be very interesting.
 
AndyP wrote
however (and this is a big however) i'm currently in the beginnings of some kind of negotiation with an overseas friend of mine who lives in a country where they sell the "AMN4000BKX5BU". Could be very interesting.
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Is that the 2.6ghz Mobile 4000+ beasty by any chance? I was looking for one of those since they came out but with no luck.
 
pastymuncher said:
Is that the 2.6ghz Mobile 4000+ beasty by any chance? I was looking for one of those since they came out but with no luck.
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Indeed it is - there's one online company that can be found that has them in stock, there were two last week but they sold out over the weekend.

-edit: and neither of them ship to the uk.
 
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pastymuncher said:
Hi Hefner, Yes it was you i was thinking of. Just could'nt find the thread again. That is a well impressive OC. What sort of scores are you getting on 05 etc.
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I've only got some scores when it was running slightly slower, not tried since I've clocked it higher. What's also letting me down slightly is the memory, as it's only running at 203mhz, at tight timings to be fair, but better memory speed would help.

3dMark2001 : 30531 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8804827
3dMark2003 : 14084 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4492304
3dMark2005 : 7110 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1594731

The fastest superpi 1M was a shade under 33s, so with better memory it would be better, but I'm fine with current performance :)
 
i'll do you some benchmarks if you like - everything is still running at stock from when my (dead) raptor arrived but i'll crank it all up (3700, 7800gtx, 2gb corsair cas2 pc3200) and give you some numbers if it would help at all?
 
andyp said:
i'll do you some benchmarks if you like - everything is still running at stock from when my (dead) raptor arrived but i'll crank it all up (3700, 7800gtx, 2gb corsair cas2 pc3200) and give you some numbers if it would help at all?
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I'd be intrigued to see how the 3700+ scales with a modern card, so some scores would be great :)
 
01 = 29,486
03 = 17,162
05 = 8,261
AQ3 = 85,471

3700 @ 2.75 (250x11)
2gb corsair 3200 @ 204mhz 2-3-3-6
7800gtx @ 472/1300

seems there's not that much in it really - although Mr Pasty's 2x7800gt's hammer my single 7800gtx in 03 and 05.
 
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i'm limited to 1280x1024 anyway - but i did notice quite a difference in battlefield 2, before i had 2gb i had to tone down the settings to save it thrashing the hell out of the pagefile every time a map opened, now i can play it with everything forced to ultra settings, 4xaa and 4xaf no problem at all. For me the 2gb is there as peace of mind for the future really - it'll last me a fair while and gives me an option as to whether to carry it over when the time comes to upgrade.

I personally wouldn't say it's a necessity - there are many many people who game on 1gb quite comfortably and don't feel the need to get another gig. However i built this system to see me through to the end of the s754/939 era so it was a worthwhile purchase for those ends.
 
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