Sabretooth x99 - irritating issues still

FatRakoon

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Ok, I have had issues with this motherboard since I bought it.

I have doen so many things to help stabilize it, but its simply not right.

Its oh so close however... But not right.

I have the AMD Sabretooth FX R2 and thats rock solid and so I have Corsair Dominators in that and so, since my I9 is running Dominators, I have swapped the RAM from that with this and that has helped massively, and thankfully, the I9 has not gone iffy and is rock solid still, informing me that the RAM is fine.

The Cooler was a huge bugger and its bee nsaid that this might be an issue, and so I have swapped teh cooler for a Corsair AIO setup and thats much lighter, and I have not tightened it too much.

The CPU is seated perfectly and I seriously doubt that there is anything more I can do in that area.

I have bought a new PSU, and so the extra 4 and the 8 pin power sockets are fed properly, and so the PSU is not the issue.

I have tried various Graphics cards in the weird chance that they might be the cause, but not making any difference.

Anyway, when booting up into Linux ( Mint 20.1 ) I saw some text flashing by that showed up some errors?

After some messing about I managed to record the screen on my phone ( poor but hey ho ) and the errors were

EDAC sbridge: Couldnt find MCI handler
EDAC sbridge: Failed to register device with error -19
EDAC sbridge: CPU SrcID #0, Ha #0, Channel #0 has DIMMS,

And it shows a load of these

That to me says the RAM is still not right, or the Motherboard does not like the RA, or the Memory controler is iffy, but has anyone any clues?
 
Just to be clear you have a Sabretooth 990FX not X99? How many RAM sticks are you using, what speed, what generation of DDR and which slots are they in?
 
Sorry no... I have BOTH.

The FX990 only shares the Sabretooth name, however as that is running with Dominator DDR3 and I have the DDR4 version of the same RAM in my i9 PC, I used that Dominator from the i9 in the SabreTooth x99 motherboard.

This did help the stability... and not just a little bit either, its made a huge difference, but its still not quite right.

The SabreTooth 990FX is rock solid stable.
The i9 WAS and still is stable even though I have swapped out the RAM with this iffy SabreTooth x99 with the hex Core i7

I am using 4 sticks of 8GB

However, I am having the exact same issues no matter what sticks and in what order.

I have set it up by using one stick in the far right slot, and then, once thats setup, I have introduced the sticks so that they are :-

From left to right XoXo CPU oXoX

X meaning there is a stick and o meaning there is NO stick. There is of course 8 slots, 4 either side of the CPU.

Corsair Dominator DDR4
 
FatRakoon said:
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Anyway, when booting up into Linux ( Mint 20.1 ) I saw some text flashing by that showed up some errors?

After some messing about I managed to record the screen on my phone ( poor but hey ho ) and the errors were

EDAC sbridge: Couldnt find MCI handler
EDAC sbridge: Failed to register device with error -19
EDAC sbridge: CPU SrcID #0, Ha #0, Channel #0 has DIMMS,

And it shows a load of these

That to me says the RAM is still not right, or the Motherboard does not like the RA, or the Memory controler is iffy, but has anyone any clues?
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I know nothing about Linux, but do you know how meaningful these errors are in terms of fault finding? E.g. that they're not referring to missing drivers, or just post-type checks / warnings?
 
No, I use Linux, and my main Linux PC and Laptops are both rock solid and have been for the manmy years that I have used it.

This particular PC, I was going to use to replace my current Linux PC, but its not in a place that makes me happy to use it in anything more than a piddle about PC.

Anoyingly, under Windows, I have run almost every kind of benchtest and CPU and RAM hammering program that I can think of, even converting multiple Movies to and from multiple formats on multiple hard drives and at the same time running memory checks and becnhtests and not once has it crashed, even when I left it run for days on end.

I try actually playing a game, or sometimes moving an icon on the desktop... it hangs? What the merry hell is that about?

No, its showing these messages and so I have never seen them before and so I thought I might ask...

The error as far as I can tell, is RAM related, and the RAM tyaht came with it, has been replaced with different RAM, and its a ton better than it was, but its still iffy.

I do have other PCs with other DDR4 but they are essentially the same.

I could, I suppose, try my old Server RAM. Thats ECC RAM so maybe this board wants that instead?

Hell, if it solves it, I will take 8 sticks out of my current server and put the old stuff back in... The Server doesnt need 1TB RAM after all.
 
FatRakoon said:
No, I use Linux, and my main Linux PC and Laptops are both rock solid and have been for the manmy years that I have used it.

This particular PC, I was going to use to replace my current Linux PC, but its not in a place that makes me happy to use it in anything more than a piddle about PC.

Anoyingly, under Windows, I have run almost every kind of benchtest and CPU and RAM hammering program that I can think of, even converting multiple Movies to and from multiple formats on multiple hard drives and at the same time running memory checks and becnhtests and not once has it crashed, even when I left it run for days on end.

I try actually playing a game, or sometimes moving an icon on the desktop... it hangs? What the merry hell is that about?

No, its showing these messages and so I have never seen them before and so I thought I might ask...

The error as far as I can tell, is RAM related, and the RAM tyaht came with it, has been replaced with different RAM, and its a ton better than it was, but its still iffy.

I do have other PCs with other DDR4 but they are essentially the same.

I could, I suppose, try my old Server RAM. Thats ECC RAM so maybe this board wants that instead?

Hell, if it solves it, I will take 8 sticks out of my current server and put the old stuff back in... The Server doesnt need 1TB RAM after all.
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I had a faulty Asus Sabretooth motherboard that had similar symptoms in terms of completely freezing the PC randomly. Disabling C-States in the BIOS would work around the issue 90% of the time, but it would not solve it. It seemed to have some relation to memory in that SiSoft Sandra tests that pushed the memory controller hard would bluescreen the PC even with C-States disabled, but it wasn't a memory problem it was a motherboard problem (I replaced the memory), strangely the problem would only occur if the RAM was in quad channel probably because it put more load on the memory subsystem. The only solution was RMAing the motherboard or replacing it with another model.

Have you run a memory test like Memtest86? Try replacing the memory if you can just to rule it out. However, it sounds like a motherboard problem.
 
I have tried a few different types of RAM now, and the Dominator is by far the most reliable, but no, not 100%
I have run Memtest86 as well as a load of other benches and they dont seem to crash it... No stress testing does, and that I find utterly stupid, because even basic games kill it dead.
Just now, I have reinstalled Linux Mint Cinnamon 20.1 and it kept failing to install the boot onto a new M2 SSD I just bought for it, and so I plopped Kubuntu into it and that did install but MUONB didnt work unless I ran it from the konsole with SUDO and then after a restart it hung again, but the mouse was fine.. Most likely an install issue I grant, but it means having to reinstall Linux YET AGAIN!!!

As for RMAing the board, this is simply not an option. I bought it from the MM on here so its second hand, and the guy who sold it to me, said it was perfect ( Even though its never been right so it was borked right from the off ) and even if I had bought it new, I have had the misfortune of using ASUS RMA before, and frankly the fact that they use some corrupt morons in scotland to do teh fake repairs and they screwed me over before, means that I am not going to be stupid enough to bother using them again.

Id rather just bin the board to be honest... It would be cheaper than those scum.

I think I might use the CPU and half the RAM and build another ITX setup to be honest.
The other half of teh RAM I can use in my Hackintosh as thats only got 8GB in.
£300 wasted on junk.
 
Checked if the mobo pins are all intact?
Have you tried readjusting the cooler? Might be overtightened and some of the pins lose contact intermittently.
Also when you say that all benchmark programs run fine and then a game crashes the computer, are both these scenarios in windows?
 
Yes, Pins are all fully intact and they are all straight and they all feel as they should. Painstakingly I checked every one... I tihnk?

Yes, the cooler is fitted nicely, the original cooler was the huge Archon with a 140mm either side of it and so that has been replaced with a Corsair AIO. It is fittedf nicely and not too tight. I was borderline OCD in how I fitted it. I doubt it can be fitted any better. I have heard that doing it too tight might cause some issues, and so it is done pretty much to perfection and there is no way that the pins can lose contact.. I am sure of it.

Both these scenarios are in Windows yes.
 
did you buy the board and the CPU separately?
also, what voltages (vcore, ram, vccsa, vccio)?
what's the uncore frequency set at?
 
I got the Board, CPU and RAM as a bundle.

The guy who sold them said that itys rock solid at one of the XMP PRofiles, but it absolutely was not. It was more stable at AUTO.

It took us about 7 or 8 attempts at even installing Windows before we finally managed it, and then we tried installing the drivers for the mobo and that also took a dozen or so attempts before we finally got the drivers in, and it was crash aafter crash after crash and I have now been through the BIOS trying this or that and the ONLY thing that has helped, was for me to swap the RAM over... The RAM that came with that, is now in my I9 PC and its fine, and the RAM from the I9 is the Dominator ram and as I also have Dominator RAM in my other SabreTooth, the AMD 9590 system, I thought I would use that, and so thats helped hugely.

I can I suppose get you the voltages etc, however I am just going to work in 2 minutes ( Already late ) and the Mobo has what seems like a bilion voltage settings and so I could not tell you to be honest.

Right at this time, the voltages are set to default I am sure.

The Mobo still sometimes messes up and moans that Overclocking has failed, and on that, I just go into the BIOS and dop nothing... I dare not reset it because I dont have a clue what have done, but its at its most reliable.

I am seriously considering just buying a cheap Mobo off the bay just to have doen with this if I am honest, and thats a shame cos its a darling setup.
Its got 4x8GB and I could knock up another ITX system and use 16GB in that, and the other 16GB I can put into my Hackintosh ( currently uses 2x4GB DDR4 - and yes, also Dominator )

Ill get the volts later on ok?
 
My god, I am such a lazy git.

I did get the volts, wrote them down and then forgot all about this.

I am piddling about with that setup right now, I have taken it out of the Corsair Obsidian 750D and chu8cked it into an old smaller Corsair thats a bit worse for wear, but the odsidian is too big to keep lumbering it about as I have a knackered .. well, everything!

There is still some RAM issue... It moans saying the ram is ECC but ECC is disabled. That said, it has not crashed for a fair while now and so I have put the Linux disks to the side for now and given it a fresh Windows install and bugger me, crash crash crash all the time.

I said I will get a different Mobo for it and Im looking for an ITX if one exists for the 2011-v3 CPU cos I got a bundle of Coolermaster Elite 130 cases and I love the way I have them stacked up... I am a bit of a nob like that.
 
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