"Safety" camera detectors v Sat Nav + POI

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Could anyone explain the pro's/cons of getting a camera detector v Sat NAv with camera location POI's?

I'm a little confused about which to get, as they seem to be almost the same thing! Ie a map with GPS + locations of camera's.

In fact, how good are the detectors anyway?
 
dafadau said:
Could anyone explain the pro's/cons of getting a camera detector v Sat NAv with camera location POI's?

I'm a little confused about which to get, as they seem to be almost the same thing! Ie a map with GPS + locations of camera's.

In fact, how good are the detectors anyway?

detectors are rubbish. The gps ones work in exactly the same way as satnav, there is just no display with a map. So if you can afford to pay extra and satnav is of value to you get a satnav solution.
 
Satnav/gps devices are very good for fixed cameras, not so good for mobile cameras - the POIs show mobile sites that are frequently used, not ones that are only used occasionally.
Detectors are very good for all active cameras, including mobiles. They can be iffy with manned police speedguns, as you don't get much advanced warning - they are only detected when the operator presses the trigger. If you're the only one on the road, you'll get no warning at all.

I've been using a Snooper detector for 4 years, and haven't been caught unawares so far. I've recently bought a TomTom 510, and added the pocketgps camera POI. The TomTom gives me an advanced warning (you can set the warning distance yourself), while the Snooper warns me if the camera is active. The TomTom also tells you what the limit is for the camera.

The only negative thing about the Snooper is the amount of false alarms, from traffic light sensors and supermarket security loops.

Some of the current "detectors" are just gps based devices, that use the same method as satnav - a POI file. These seem pretty pointless - get a satnav instead.
Some are just laser and radar detectors - they beep when they detect a camera, but don't tell you the distance or speed limit.
Some use GPS and a laser/radar detector. These are expensive.

I'll keep using my satnav and my laser/radar detector, as I reckon it offers the maximum protection.
 
I have both , TT510 and Origin B2

there is no comparison , no way would I rely on the satnav only

missed cameras ( pocketgpsworld and TT databases ) , rubbish directional and "off road" info , no over speed warning

I have used them side by side and there is no way would I go out without the Origin
 
Rotty said:
I have both , TT510 and Origin B2

there is no comparison , no way would I rely on the satnav only

missed cameras ( pocketgpsworld and TT databases ) , rubbish directional and "off road" info , no over speed warning

I have used them side by side and there is no way would I go out without the Origin

I've never had a problem with the PocketGPSWorld database, but I appreciate that could quite concieveably be simply because I haven't drivent the roads with missing cameras that you have.

I thought the Origin B2 didn't 'detect' mobile cameras though? Would you only use the B2, or just in conjuction with TTN based solutions?

My PocketGPSWorld/CheckPoint database includes over speed warnings where appropriate, what software are you using your TTN base databases with?
 
POI on my tomtom 5 is a nice add on(free when i was using it) but in no way is it as accurate as my RA2. Plus its a pain to get the pda out just for a short journey to detect cameras whereas any time im driving i plug the RA in and its ready.

Anyone one with both will tell you a dedicated detector is better.
 
Rotty said:
missed cameras ( pocketgpsworld and TT databases ) , rubbish directional and "off road" info , no over speed warning

even my cheapy garmin i3 does overspeed warnings!
 
triggerthat said:
Is the speed of the camera notification part of the tomtom or the POI camera database? I have a TomTom ONE.

I use the pocketgps camera POI - cheaper updates than the TomTom database, and better coverage.
If you download the individual POIs (rather than the single file), you can set different warnings for each type/speed of camera.
 
Hate said:
even my cheapy garmin i3 does overspeed warnings!

The TT510 does do overspeed warnings, but it's very subtle - the current speed display turns red. Normally white text on blue background, turns to red text on blue background, and no audible warning.
You need to activate the current speed display option, as it's not on by default, and it only works on about 50% of roads in my area.
Not ideal!
 
The warning on my PDA is fine, the fact that the speed flashes on the PDA lets me know the speed :p ..adjust speed as required. Done :) I have a longer warning on mobile speed cameras too as they have quite a range don't they?
 
ive got a satnav with pocketgpsworld satnav database

not found a camera thats not on it yet

whats more, my navman icn520 does overspeed warnings

and im not bothered about so called "mobile detectors" as they are largely ineffective as the mobile lasers catch you so quickly. by the time your alerts gone off, you've been caught as they catch you going towards them, and can catch you over much longer distances than radar.

with mobile cameras, the only real way is GPS based, which Satnav with POI systems give you.
 
clockworks said:
The TT510 does do overspeed warnings, but it's very subtle - the current speed display turns red. Normally white text on blue background, turns to red text on blue background, and no audible warning.
You need to activate the current speed display option, as it's not on by default, and it only works on about 50% of roads in my area.
Not ideal!

nice :p

my garmin goes bong bong bong bong till you slow down
 
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