Saints Row 2

~Stevief~ · 18 Dec 2007 at 10:19

http://www.gameplayer.com.au/Home/P...3b94146-4f13-41de-a61f-176d991fb212&v7Pager=1

I cant wait for this :eek:

Shicky · 18 Dec 2007 at 11:02

adored the first, still my favourite 360 game. Online it was absolutely fantastic. However methinks they'll need to get it out least 2months before GTA to have success, its good that rockstar will deffo need to step it up to compete also

Paranoid_Robot · 18 Dec 2007 at 11:05

The only reason the first one was a success is because of the timing of the release, it was a blatant copy of GTA. Yeah they might have done it well but GTA SA was still better even though it was released before it.

Not excited for it, bring on GTA4.

ScarySquirrel · 18 Dec 2007 at 11:08

Saints Row was an AWESOME game. A GTA copy? Well, how could it not be?

Do people say Forza 2 is a 'copy' of Gran Turismo? No probably not, but it is really isn't it? They are both racing games.

I can't wait for Saints Row 2 AND GTA 4. Both going to be awesome

NokkonWud · 18 Dec 2007 at 11:10

Paranoid_Robot said:
The only reason the first one was a success is because of the timing of the release, it was a blatant copy of GTA. Yeah they might have done it well but GTA SA was still better even though it was released before it.

Not excited for it, bring on GTA4.

Saints Row is a very good game on its own merits. Saints Row was a stab in the dark for a first release and it works well, they'll have learned from that for this one, so I'd be expecting something even better.

Why can both not work? People are willing to spend more than £40 a year on games.

ScarySquirrel · 18 Dec 2007 at 11:12

NokkonWud said:
Saints Row is a very good game on its own merits. Saints Row was a stab in the dark for a first release and it works well, they'll have learned from that for this one, so I'd be expecting something even better.

Why can both not work? People are willing to spend more than £40 a year on games.

Exactly.

Based on that preview, if they deliver, it will be damn good. Full on co-op with a friend over XBL..........sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!

Windle · 18 Dec 2007 at 11:13

Yup agree with Nokkon. Will be plenty of people willing to buy both, myself included. I suspect they will be very different games, but i'm really looking forward to seeing how there moving the franchise forwards in the second iteration.

Paranoid_Robot · 18 Dec 2007 at 11:18

NokkonWud said:
Saints Row is a very good game on its own merits. Saints Row was a stab in the dark for a first release and it works well, they'll have learned from that for this one, so I'd be expecting something even better.

Why can both not work? People are willing to spend more than £40 a year on games.

It will probably sell loads but I won't be buying it

I know lots of people do, but I don't spend money on buying a copy of FIFA and Pro, GTA and Saints Row, GT and Forza 2, or NHL and NHL 2k8 etc.

I see which one is best and then I'll buy that. I will be very surprised if Saints Row 2 is a better game than GTA4 but feel free to get excited for it.

weringo · 18 Dec 2007 at 11:21

Paranoid_Robot said:
It will probably sell loads but I won't be buying it

I know lots of people do, but I don't spend money on buying a copy of FIFA and Pro, GTA and Saints Row, GT and Forza 2, or NHL and NHL 2k8 etc.

I see which one is best and then I'll buy that. I will be very surprised if Saints Row 2 is a better game than GTA4 but feel free to get excited for it.

I can understand not buying two football games, but not buying Saints Row AND GTA? That is madness. That's like limiting yourself to one FPS every year.

Paranoid_Robot · 18 Dec 2007 at 11:25

weringo said:
I can understand not buying two football games, but not buying Saints Row AND GTA? That is madness. That's like limiting yourself to one FPS every year.

They are more similar than two FPSs. I bought Bioshock, Halo 3, Orange Box and COD4 this year. All based on different times with different art direction in each, mixed up gameplay, different settings etc.

With Saints Row, I'm getting (unless they're not going gangsta) the same experience I had with GTA SA years ago.

Edit

I looked at a few screenshots and it doesn't actually look that bad, the story has to be there though.

I'm just saying I don't have my pre order on both, I have it on GTA because I know Rockstar will make a great game. With Saints Row I'm not so sure it will be as good as GTA so I'll see how it looks nearer release.

NokkonWud · 18 Dec 2007 at 11:53

Am I missing something? The screenshots don't look great

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Paranoid_Robot · 18 Dec 2007 at 11:54

NokkonWud said:
Am I missing something? The screenshots don't look great .

I mean they look better than the original, the ones on their site. Still don't look as good as GTA4 though.

Shicky · 18 Dec 2007 at 12:01

NokkonWud said:
Am I missing something? The screenshots don't look great .

My thoughts also, but i expect them to get better.

As for being a GTA 'copy' of course it will feel that way but it also had numerous new features and some really creative missions. At the end of the day saints row not only provided a great single player game, i'll agree not as good as GTA SA. But it also provided a fantastic multiplayer experience unlike anything that was out and unlike anything that is still out. Team Blinged Out Ride will forever live on in my dreams. Yes you have multi theft auto but that my friend is dire and doesnt come close.

If MS opened up dedicated servers, charged other companies to launch them, i could easily see saints row 2 being one of the best multiplayer games ever. In my eyes GTA has to prove itself, MP wise, SR just has to tweak.

Like most here, i'll be getting both as im not some sort of weird rockstar fan boi

yaboy · 18 Dec 2007 at 12:22

Looks sick!

Its in no way a comp to GTAIV as GTA is like 200220302032x bigger. But i'll end up owning both anyway so.. ;D

MadFruit · 18 Dec 2007 at 13:19

I was hugely impressed with this game when I got it (rented it). I didn't bother buying it when it first came out because like others I just saw a GTA rip off. When I did play it properly though it was FAR superior to GTA:SA (although GTA:VC still holds the title IMHO).

I don't know what people are on about with the graphics in GTA4 - they look decidedly... average to me. Have the character models even been improved since GTA:SA? No. The cars look nice and so does the scenery, sure, but not that much. I'm really not impressed with what I have seen of GTA4 so far. Sure it has the pedigree and I am sure it will be a great game, but it just feels more like GTA3:TheNextOne rather than a true evolution. They promised the step from 3 to 4 to be similar to the step from 2 to 3. Yeah right.

Anyway, back on topic at hand, looking forward to SR2, the screen shots are too small to tell anything yet.

da_mic_1530 · 18 Dec 2007 at 13:20

i still need to pick the 1st one up, loved the demo

ic1male · 18 Dec 2007 at 13:23

Is SR2 coming on the PS3?

Kainz · 18 Dec 2007 at 13:26

At the end of the day it will be up against stiff competition from GTA IV. Saints Row came out of no where, by bettering San Andreas in almost every way, however they'll need to get SR2 out the door sharpish before the GTA hype engine starts up.

I can't access that url from work so I hope they've addressed the only thing that was wrong with SR1 - a lack of variation in the vehicles at our disposal.

RuMp3l4$k1n · 18 Dec 2007 at 13:54

Hope it plays better than it looks.

ScarySquirrel · 18 Dec 2007 at 13:58

Kainz said:
At the end of the day it will be up against stiff competition from GTA IV. Saints Row came out of no where, by bettering San Andreas in almost every way, however they'll need to get SR2 out the door sharpish before the GTA hype engine starts up.

I can't access that url from work so I hope they've addressed the only thing that was wrong with SR1 - a lack of variation in the vehicles at our disposal.

Well there are now bikes, jetskis, boats, planes and helicopters. All of which are said to be customisable, so it looks promising

Here is the article:

While the original Saints Row may have lacked the expertly executed satire and originality of the GTA series, it certainly made up for it with its mostly excellent controls, hilarious side missions and dazzling visuals. Saints Row 2, due sometime in 2008, builds on the original Xbox 360 crime sim and packs in some exceptional new features not yet seen in the genre. It’s aiming to be a serious threat to GTA IV’s world conquering plans.

Firstly, Saints Row 2 is packing a lot of elements that should have been included in the first place, namely aircraft. Fixed wing aircraft and helicopters are in, as are motorbikes, jet-skis, speedboats and more, and most of them will have performance upgrades available. The addition of aircraft in particular is handy given that the Stilwater location in SR2 will apparently be 45% larger than that of the first game.

If what little we have seen so far can be believed, you’ll also be able to fly right through a building! How cool is that? We can’t wait to cleave right through skyscraper penthouse to take out an enemy drug lord, and mutter something deadpan like, “Sorry to crash the party”. Entire buildings won’t be destructible – this isn’t an Al-Qaeda training simulator – but flying aircraft through windows certainly opens up a lot of cool new gameplay possibilities; a dogfight in and out of buildings with an army jet or police chopper would be particularly awesome.

Character customisation, which was already quite deep in the previous game, has been enhanced to the point where you can customise your character’s sex, or in the words of the developers, “you can play as a man, a woman or anything in between”. Yes, your dreams of controlling an Uzi-toting transsexual are about to come true (you sicko).

Players will now be able to take hostages and use them as human shields, which will apparently be particularly useful during interior combat. You can also dual-wield ranged firearms, and rip things out of the environment such as road signs and mailboxes to use as melee weapons, Incredible Hulk style. In fact, nearly every object in the game’s sprawling environment can be interacted with in one way or another.

One massive inclusion in the game is the online co-op mode. We’re not talking the watered-down two-player component from the last game, this is a substantial co-op mode that allows you to play through the entire story and all the side missions with a friend over Xbox Live, ala Crackdown. Can you even imagine how cool that will be? The developers are also promising additional mission objectives specific to the co-op mode in order to put a greater focus on teamwork.

Not only is the city of Stilwater much larger in SR2 than it was in the original, it’s also set to feature over 130 building interiors to explore and/or crash through, six new above ground districts and four underground, plus every district from the first game has been retouched and redesigned to make the experience seem fresh.

While Rockstar’s GTA IV seems to be focussing on realism, Saints Row 2 is shaping up to be an enjoyable hyper-realistic alternative. We’ll have more in the coming months, but for now we’ll leave you to ponder how much funnier throwing yourself in front of traffic during the Insurance Fraud missions will be with a friend.