Salary Negotiation, bit of help please

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So tomorrow I have a second round interview for a new job in the same sector but a very different role. Currently I'm a a structural engineer working in an engineering services consultancy in Oil and Gas, the new job is for the position of loss adjuster for a company actually quite similar to my current one, but they happen to have an arm in Adjusting.

Long and the short, the recruiter originally played up the salary range for the new role by an inordinate amount, leading me to pitch a much higher salary expectation (£[X+12]k) at first interview than they the employer were anticipating. He told me this during a phone call after, and apologised, and said their budget was much more around the £[X]k mark. He said they still wanted to go to second interview, but was I OK with this lower budgeted amount, and as my current salary is £[X-3.2]k I agreed.

He said he'd see what they could do about stretching their budget a little further, and find out details about the second interview. He also says that basically the only other competition for the role is someone with only 1 years experience (I have 3), but his salary expectation are more like £[X-10]k.

This morning he comes back, and says that due to the other guy being more affordable, and current salary levels in their team, they wouldn't be comfortable offering me any more than matching my current salary, £[X-3.2k].

I'm really not sure what to make of this, are they playing extreme hardball? I can't work out if the recruiter is also on their side or not (he strongly assured me they weren't playing hardball). On the one hand, I assume the recruiter wants as high a salary as possible to get him the most comission, but on the other hand what happened to the budget of £[X]k? Or was he lying about that to keep me interested?

All in all, I would be happy to take this job for the same salary I am on now, but I think this would be underselling myself, and it definitely would be a harder job.

Has anyone been in a similar situation before? Can I conduct further salary negotiation when meeting with the regional MD tomorrow, or would that be poor form, as currently that is going on via the recruiter? Or would it be legitimate to say look, the recruiter keeps getting this wrong, can we have a frank discussion?

Thanks all
 
This. I would just cancel the second interview politely. Not worth the time.

Well from a principled point of view, and if they were identical jobs then absolutely yes, I agree.

But I would enjoy the new job much more, it would be more of a challenge and I think I could go much further in it.

It's just the thought of not getting any pay bump at all is a bit grating really.

I think a few people above have given good advice, to let them make an offer (if 2nd interview goes well of course) and then negotiate on that. My faith in the recruiter is pretty much rock bottom right now.
 
Had the second interview today. I have to say that I think I'd enjoy the work so much more than where I am now that I'm not hung up much at all over salary.

If they do offer me something, chances are I'll try and squeeze out another couple of K, but I'm not going to reject on principle - The alternative is that I stay where I am and get no pay rise this year anyway as current company is on pay freeze.
 
So had a call this morning from my friend the recruiter and I didn't get it. They made an offer to the guy with one year's experience for £[X-6]k, almost 3k below my current salary.

Fair enough if they didn't want to pay anything over that and I wouldn't have taken that low, but a little annoyed I wasn't able to demonstrate my value above the guy for another few k. No idea what he's like or how tight their budget restriction really is though. Does so happen that he was Scottish, and both guys I was interviewed by were also Scottish, but I'm sure that's neither here nor there :rolleyes: I also don't know how much of a bad effect my first salary pitch (under misinformation from the recruiter) of £[X+12]k had, despite agreeing to some flexibility on that after the first interview.

What he did say is that they did like me but just wanted to go with the cheaper option, and that come April when they get the new annual budget if a role comes up then they'll definitely be in touch, but I guess that's a pretty slim chance given the dire oil price.

At least I learned a few things about the whole recruitment situation, time to do some fresh applications! Just don't know how I'll be able to pull the wool over current work's eyes for time off for interviews, was tricky enough just the two so far as it was right in the city and during working hours and my work is in Slough
 
It may have been for the best, I'd always be wary of a company so hung up on a few k. You probably would have got frustrated with the lack of salary growth after a few years anyway.

Either that or the oil price is biting them very hard.

Well I agree on your first point, but my current company is on a total salary freeze anyway so it couldn't get much worse as it is.
 
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