Samsung F8000 + PS3 = Motion Blur?

[Drazek]

Hi all,

I've scoured the interwebs and I can't really find any solid info on how to resolve this issue, so I thought i'd make my own plea for help!

I have a Samsung UE40F8000 HDTV, hooked up my PS3 via a HDMI 1.4 cable, set it into Game Mode, turned all the bells and whistles off.

The problem i'm seeing is that when playing games on my PS3 (The Last of Us) whenever I move around, I can see the background blurring, especially in dark areas and dark corners.. door frames will blur left and right, cabinet edges will blur, etc. it's usually a black blur too.

HOW DO I STOP THIS!? - it's driving me crazy, I keep changing settings, trying different options, nothing has worked so far.

I've narrowed it down to either, the PS3 just sucks. or it's something to do with the HDMI black level (normal/limited) and/or the PS3 HDMI RGB setting (full/limited).

in various forums on the internet some people swear that HDMI RGB should always be set to full, and naturally the HDTV black level should be set to normal to match. - however this is how I have it setup right now and i'm still seeing blurring everywhere!

other people on the net (not many people), say "always set the PS3 to limited on a HDTV, and the HDTV black level to limited." - now I will admit I haven't tried this yet (at work atm).

What I'd like to know is have any of you come across this dark scene blurring issue before? (it's really noticeable!) and how have you fixed it? if you've managed to fix it at all?

Thanks!

 

[Drazek]

Hi guys, thanks for the replies.

So I wasn't going crazy then! - I'm a hard core techie so I'm no slouch when it comes to all things digital but this was/is sending me for a loop!

Sounds like I might be stuck in a catch 22 though :/

In order to get rid of (or significantly reduce) the motion blurring I see, I need to enable the Motion Plus feature (according to this article), however the motion plus feature introduces a "large amount of input lag".

So either I have a fast snappy game which blurs all over the place, or I have a clear non-blurry game that responds like a naturally aspirated diesel! - ugh, woe is me!

 

[Drazek]

I have a few more updates to my predicament..

I have my PC plugged into my F8000, and I have set the channel to PC mode.

When I play Saints Row 4 on my PC, through the TV. it's perfect! no lag, no blurring, brilliant.

So why can't my PS3 do that!? - this is what makes me wonder if it's just the PS3 or the game itself adding unnecessary crazy motion blur?

 

[Drazek]

Slightly off topic as I can't help with your motion blur issue, but you have the exact TV I am considering buying and wondered what you think of it ?

Hi thebandit, I must admit, the TV is insane! I love it!

I won't go all geeky techno on you as you can read all the reviews about this screen on the web, but I will say that it took me a good 6 months worth of reading reviews and research to finally decide that this is the TV for me, and I am very happy with my purchase.

the only nagging I have with it is when playing "The last of us" on PS3, it blurs like a mother- but upon lots of testing, I'm thinking it's either just that game, or just the PS3.

see my update in my next post below:

 

[Drazek]

So here's my current update with this issue I'm seeing.

Those of you who have this screen (or a similar screen?) and a PS3, and "The Last of Us". - please feel free to let me know what your experience and settings are?

but I have renamed all of my ports to "PC" in order to test this:

I have my actual PC plugged into port 2 - it's perfect. (playing anything, 1080p, PC mode.)
I have my XBOX 360 plugged into port 3 - it's perfect. (playing FFXIII, 1080p, PC mode.)
I have my PS3 plugged into port 1 - when playing the last of us, it blurs to hell and back. (playing the last of us, 720p/1080i, PC mode.)

notices: the last of us runs in 720p, not 1080p. - however I have turned off 720p on my PS3 and forced the last of us to run in 1080i mode... still didn't work.

So i'm currently thinking that it's one of 3 things, the PS3 itself (can't be as others have said their PS3 in 'PC' mode are fine.) - the port i'm using? (unlikely, as I'm sure 'pc' mode works on all of my ports, but I will test this!) - or the game has some hard coded crappy motion blur that I can't turn off! (but this is really odd because when i plug my PS3 into my Dell monitor I don't see any motion blur at all!?)

So. I will try the other ports for my PS3 and see if that works, if changing ports doesn't work, it has to be the game itself! - which I guess it would help if I tried playing a different PS3 game, that way I can find out for sure if it's just the last of us that's tooling me around.

 

[Drazek]

Hello!

Right so I've been playing GTA 5 on the xbox and the last of us on the PS3.

The motion blur is there on both games in dark scenes. In GTA in the day time is brilliant but at night I can see some slight motion blur. The last of us having a lot of dark scenes suffers a lot worse of course!

So the issue appears to be the TV. And I'll guess that this issue happens on all LCD HDTVs?

Doesn't happen on my Dell 30 inch monitor though!

I have tried them both on game mode and in PC mode. I think PC mode is slightly better? In game mode I can mess with the motion plus settings but I haven't found a ssetting that gets rid of the motion blur yet

 

[Drazek]

Sorry guys but I'm going to resurrect this post:

I have continued my quest to find out if it's possible to stop this god aweful black blurring on this screen, and most searches I do on Google take me back to my own thread!

Sorry to high jack an old thread, but is this the sort of thing you were experiencing?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJo0nCk8nH8

I have the same tv and its been bugging me too; it does it on my ps3, ps4, and pc, regardless of any setting.

Did you ever manage to resolve this? Is it just an issue with this tv, or do you reckon we have faulty models or something?

Yes, this is -exactly- what I'm talking about, AND IT DRIVES ME INSANE!!

Does anyone know if it's possible to enable Black Frame Insertion on this TV whilst gaming with a decent (small) input lag? - or even just with any input lag..

I find the black blurring to be so distracting that I can't properly enjoy gaming on this TV and it even gives me headaches and it's putting me off playing my consoles.

- Here's another question for you -

It seems that 2015 will be the year of the quantum dot TV; what do you reckon will be the best quantum dot gaming TV that employs BFI to remove motion blur and give low input lag for gaming?