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Sandy Bridge-E coming November?

BTW,Surveyor it might be worth starting another thread about the Ivy Bridge compatability issues.

IMHO,it is important for any people buying socket 1155 based systems as they probably think that their motherboard will work with Ivy Bridge. I hope my Gigabyte GA-H67N-USB3-B3 is compatible though.
 
I was kind of interested in SB-E, but after reading that article its starting to look like a non-event for the general consumer market. I'm guessing then that its going to be a slow selling and short-lived socket. I'll stick with X58 a while longer.
 
Until production Ivy Bridge CPUs are shown to work fully with existing socket 1155 motherboards MSI can claim anything they want and then retract it at the last minute blaming Intel. They only want to get one up over the competition.
 
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Sandy Bridge E preview: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/core-i7-3960x-x79-performance,review-32272.html

From the looks of things there's absolutely no point in getting this over the 2500K! However, for video encoding it does look like a nice improvement thanks to the extra cores. But really I can only see mad people buying this...
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Thanks for the link, Orcvader. After reading the article, I'm convinced that it'll be worth waiting for Sandy Bridge-E in my case. I'll just have to hope that 8GB DDR3 modules are readily available when they arrive, as 32GB is going to be essential to take advantage of the processing power.
 
Wucked said:
I was kind of interested in SB-E, but after reading that article its starting to look like a non-event for the general consumer market. I'm guessing then that its going to be a slow selling and short-lived socket. I'll stick with X58 a while longer.
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Engineering cpu + motherboard so things could possibly change between now and release. They were also only using 1 gpu.
For desktop use I'd expect to see at least 2 if not 3, possibly even 4 gpu setups matched with this system.

Otherwise it's seems there is no point unless you desperately need the 6 cores and synthetic memory bandwidth.

Lack of quicksync is not surprising but a real shame as it's second only cpu encoding in terms of quality but far faster.

Also this:
There’s an amazing amount of conflicting information about Sandy Bridge-E online, and it’s all attributable to Intel. The Sandy Bridge-E/X79 combination was originally planned to include on-processor PCI Express 3.0 support. It was supposed to enable 14 SATA ports, 10 of which were 6 Gb/s-capable and ready to accommodate SAS drives. There was even an additional four-lane link between the CPU and PCH dedicated to augmenting storage performance.
As it stands right now, though, all of those plans have fallen through. That’s not to say we’re expecting Sandy Bridge-E to be a disappointment. Its feature set still promises to give enthusiasts more performance.
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Wow. Is intel trying to make this platform as redundant as possible? Or will they troll everyone who buys into the platform by releasing the proper chipset setup a couple of months after launch like they did to all P67 owners.

I've been looking forward to this for ages as I've had my 1366 i7 setup since launch. Looks like I've got to wait till Ivybridge/Ivebridge-E at the earliest. :(
 
It's kind of worrying the fact Intel are confident enough to give us an early preview of a chip and platform that won't see the light of day until November and yet AMD won't give us anything on Bulldozer even though its due out imminently.
 
Freddie1980 said:
It's kind of worrying the fact Intel are confident enough to give us an early preview of a chip and platform that won't see the light of day until November and yet AMD won't give us anything on Bulldozer even though its due out imminently.
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Intel can be because it does not matter as they will out sell AMD even if AMD had a better product just like the P4 days.
AMD has to play its cards close to its chest no matter what.
 
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Freddie1980 said:
It's kind of worrying the fact Intel are confident enough to give us an early preview of a chip and platform that won't see the light of day until November and yet AMD won't give us anything on Bulldozer even though its due out imminently.
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Yeah, you can release things "early" when you can half of the new features, infact pretty much all of them, and, they are still there on the chip but disabled because they are either flat out not working, or buggy.

If Bulldozer disabled half of the features I'm sure it too could be out "early".

I keep putting early in brackets because, Sandy-e was supposed to launch in late Q1 early Q2, quite a bit before Bulldozer, which itself as of anytime before around March was always schedualled for Q3 this year, they chip got ready and they brought it forward to Q2. Which turned into a bit of a disaster because seemingly while the chip taped out a LONG time ago, the process is a bit of a poo basically. So for the past 2 years, Sandy -e was supposed to be out, April at the latest really, and Bulldozer was never supposed to be before Q3, AMD thought they could bring it forward, but failed, and its basically back on schedual, Sandy-e is now over 6 months late, and still not out. Ivy has been pushed 5-6 months, with potentially more coming, but AMD are the only one getting grief over a much smaller delay....... on a brand new architecture and a brand new process, 32nm is 2years old for Intel now and they screwed up Sandy and have now screwed up Sandy-e........ how on earth do they always come up smelling of roses?

Sandy-e, is literally nothing(now) but a Sandybridge with 2 more cores and no gpu, its LESS complex(with all the newer stuff disabled) than a Sandybridge which launched early Jan, because the GPU was BY FAR the most complex addition to Intel's architecture, they could have easily launched this chip the same time as Sandybridge, easily, without question. Of course they designed it to be quite a bit more than a basic Sandybridge, and non of it works.

Assuming they can get some/most of that stuff working for Ivy they are accidentally making Ivy a bit more appealing than it was. I keep touting quicksync as great and a thing Sandy-e will be missing but, is it working in any other applications yet or still just the two original programs as from launch. I just assumed it would work in a lot more stuff by now, but judging by Tom's hardwares preview, none of the encoding stuff they did could use quicksync.
 
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Freddie1980 said:
It's kind of worrying the fact Intel are confident enough to give us an early preview of a chip and platform that won't see the light of day until November and yet AMD won't give us anything on Bulldozer even though its due out imminently.
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http://www.extremetech.com/computin...cing-revealed-a-lot-cheaper-than-sandy-bridge

If there's any truth in this then I'm not surprised. Looking at that its easy to believe that BD will end up being a cheap and cheerful alternative to SB. So more of AMD's bang-for-buck rather that outright performance. Not a bad thing I guess, many people are more interested in price/performance over outright performance.
 
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