Satinwood or gloss?

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I've got to do the skirting, door, frame and picture rail in a bedroom at the weekend. Bare wood and already sanded.

So, satinwood or gloss? I've got some quick drying gloss that I used in a different room two weeks ago and, not being my forte, the results are; ok.

I understand satinwood doesn't need undercoat, is easier and takes longet to become flat.

Any opinions?
 
Might not need a undercoat, you still need to use a primer on the bare wood.

Good preparation is the secret to a good finish

I myself use Eggshell gives a mid-sheen finish, but out of your two I would prefer satin.
 
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Adam said:
Satinwood without doubt. They leyland trade tuff from screwfix is decent (oil based).
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And also at Screwfix Leyland Acrylic Primer/Undercoat (64719) rather good paint, will be using it again, don't usually use Leyland, but I needed some to finish a job, & Screwfix was the only place open close to me.
 
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Eggshell is what I always use. Gloss is horrible, especially after a few years when the coats build up.
 
Prime first with a good quality primer, two coats of undercoat. Sanding down and dusting off each time. Then apply the finish coat, be it satinwood or gloss. This idea of satinwood paint being self undercoating is a no no for me. Even the best brands lack the ability to provide god even coverage. Hence two undercoats, in painting preparation is 99% of the job.
 
setter said:
Prime first with a good quality primer, two coats of undercoat. Sanding down and dusting off each time. Then apply the finish coat, be it satinwood or gloss.
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And use a good quality paintbrush.

Don't stretch the paint, let the paint dry thoroughly between coats, don't over brush it.
 
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Oh a painting thread! Something i can help at!

Ok yes, as everyone has said, use an acrylic primer/undercoat. first coat, fill anything, sand down. 2nd coat, sand again and then gloss. satinwood is sorta the same. true satinwood doesnt need an undercoat, but thats because you use the satinwood as an undercoat. so it gets 2 coats of satinwood. But you can get away with undercoating with the acrylic and giving it a final of satinwood.

Also to clear things up, eggshell is for walls/ceiling. not woodwork. Dont get me wrong, you can use it on woodwork, but its not as hard-wearing so it'll chip easier. So we never use it on woodwork.

Nightglow also said about stretching the paint? i've never heard of this. Best tip for gloss is to(stretch?) work it in as much as possible, then lay it off in the direction of the grain. So if i was painting a door, i would work in a rough 1ft². Get my paint going in every direction i can, then lay it off. Keep doing this as you work down the door and you should be run free.
 
Kobi said:
Also to clear things up, eggshell is for walls/ceiling. not woodwork. Dont get me wrong, you can use it on woodwork, but its not as hard-wearing so it'll chip easier. So we never use it on woodwork.
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You can get eggshell for woodwork and metal. It's just the same sort of paint as gloss and satin, but has less shine to it. Never had any problem with it chipping as I always go for oil based, rather than water based.

Think you might be talking about acrylic eggshell.
 
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Oh i didnt know that! I'm never in the shops, just phone up dulux and make my orders. My boss always told me to never put eggshell onto woodwork as its not as heard wearing. True he could be on about when eggshell first came out though. Will read the back of our tins when im at the workshop monday, see what it says.
 
Eggshell can be used on woodwork fine, be it oil or waterbased. It's just that it doesnt take wear/abuse as well as satinwood or gloss. Though diamond eggshell from dulux is exceptionally good in this regard, (water based too). As for doors, i use mohair rollers. No fibre loss, and so much quicker. Once rolled you run a brush through it to remove the tiny orange peel effect that a mohair roller can leave. Ultimately, the best finish is spraying, but it is expensive and not often practical particularly in domestic settings.
 
i know this is a bit of a bump. But I have just redone all the woodwork in my house. Dado, Skirting, architrave, door frames and doors.

Sanded down a bit.

Leyland Trade Undercoat & Leyland Trade Satinwood White.

Absolutely brilliant stuff. Hardly any drips, no runs at ALL!. Dries fairly quick as well.

The price for 'trade' paint, be it Leyland, or whoever is the same as normal B&Q Crown & Dulux. Certainly worked for me.
 
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Gloss is OWWWWWLD school. Use satinwood.
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This and modern gloss is just rubbish unless your room is south facing with massive windows it is yellow practically before it has dried. The satinwood I've painted has held it's bright white so much better it's embarrassing.
 
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