Saving the planet, one year on

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If you follow the "When are you going electric" thread, you'll see that last year, I purchased a brand new Skoda Enyaq VRS. One year on, I thought it might be interesting to have an update as to how it's working out.

Said vehicle is a fully optioned Enyaq VRS in Hyper Green, although I chose to stick with the standard "alloys", all other options and packs were part of the "maxx package".

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Range:
Never seen more than 270 (Official is 317). It's got significantly better with mileage, and is strongly weather dependent

Long term economy:
The car reports 3.2mi/kW and in the warmer months tends to be just below 4mi/kW

Cost:
I've had probably 10 charges away from home at various EV points, the most expensive of which has been £0.72/kWh, and I only charge to 80pc
At home, I charge to 100pc and over the last year, it has cost me £582.90 in electricity using Octopus.

Mileage:
14399

What's it like
This car feels faster than it is, and has no right to be as fast as it is. It might not be hugely quick in the traffic light GP, but it builds speed ridiculously quickly, overcoming it's weight with no real issue. It's super smooth and incredibly quiet inside the cabin, which is just a really nice place to be. The Skoda seats are really comfortable and there is nothing I miss coming from other more expensive cars. In fact, in many areas, the Skoda does it better. What might seem like silly things, the tactile touch of the scroll wheels on the steering wheel, the fact that if you open a door at night, the ambient light turns red to alert cars (and you) that a door is open.
It's a mind shift driving experience as the car slows down regeneratively as it approaches a change in speed limit. Interestingly though, it doesn't do this in fully autonomous mode, if you set a speed limit and the traffic clears, it will resume to that limit. It generally puts a smile on my face, especially joining motorways or passing slower moving traffic.

Maintenance:
£0. Tyres are at 4.6mm all round, brakes have 80pc left

Tax:
£0

Insurance:
£800 per year
 
If I were to just be driving to and from work I would love one, but the mess that is the charging infrastructure in this country just puts me right off for now.
We have a van at work and it's a nightmare when you have say 5 miles remaining turn up at the charger and it's not working, or out of order, or got a car parked there. I'm just not working to deal with that from my main car.
I'm strongly going to consider a REx though, ticks all the boxes.
I will say, I've had probably 2 problems with charging publicly over the past year. One was a non working charger (and an incorrect charger listed on zapmap), and the other was waiting for a charger at a service station which was just an annoyance rather than anything technical. The picture above is the Northampton services off of the M1 (not on the M1) at junction 16. As I use Octopus, I have an "Electroverse" card, so any charging gets added to my energy bill. Electroverse have their own app too so I found this charging station, completely empty, less than 1/2 a mile from Junct. 16 of the M1, operating at 350kw. The Enyaq takes 125Kw (from memory), and I got that speed, so went from 11pc to 85pc in around 35mins, which was fine as I went for a sandwich, coffee and a toilet break.
 
sounds good across 14K - is that 50m/day commute @60, or longer motorway miles @70 ?
(private) £800 insurance is pricey but when you chose VRS over lower powered versions maybe you made that decision(+get adaptives too I guess)

[who knew johnny and I share an appreciation of MEB ! - dealer network versus chinese contingent attracts me, and latest drivetrain technology commitment ]
Originally, back in June 2023, the car was purchased to cover a commute of 250 round trip, twice a week. That came to an end in September. The beauty of this though, was that the council run car park had installed 7kW chargers back in 2015, that were not listed on any charging map, and, were completely free to use - there were only 4 for the entire car park. All you had to do was pay for normal parking at £8 a day, but that was no different to any other car.

In the early days, the car used to get 2.7 - 3.1kW/mile, but since it's "run in" that has improved massively. Now, it gets a lot of local use (school run, shopping, days out) only with occasional long trips (probably once a month), and it is far better in the 30-50mph zone overall (averaging 3.7 to 4.2kW/mile).

In classic fashion my Enyaq was superseded within 12 months, which I guess is where this level of tech in EVs is heading. The 2024 Enyaq has the newer motors (more power, more efficiency), a different battery tech and critically, a higher rated DC circuit so it can take peak charging of 175kW.
 
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To be fair that is exactly how petrol stations work yet I still faff around with a different app for each one because I'm too tight to pass up on the loyalty points :p

That is a pretty bold colour combined with that grille... not sure I could pull that off myself :D
There's no denying, it's quite a head turner. Especially new, a lot of the locals almost rear ended each other, but now it's a common site locally. However, last weekend, I had the pleasure(?) of driving through Bradford. It got a lot of attention. Shiny + Bling, what could go wrong :D
 
( yes I think the ev market is like the wild west last man standing will be ?)

back in the room -
is the enyaqs adaptive suspension a useful option how do you set it -
as a prospective 2nd hand id3 owner that's my sentiment, rwd and reasonable insurance being other positives
It's pretty good, it's just adaptive modes like "sport, normal, traction, eco", etc.

I'll admit, I thought that last year it had become mandated that all EV chargers must accept chip and pin (ie, no need for apps, etc). I've certainly never used an app other than finding a charger.
 
Yes I tend to wait until the oil temperature is high enough, but then I can choose to ignore it if I wish. That isn't the same as the car preventing me from using more power is it? Imagine trying to do to overtake and the car just says no you can't just at the point of commiting?
I can still use the full power of my car even if the low fuel light is low.

Sorry but who goes around using launch control much anyway, I don't feel the need to perform some kind of drag race at every traffic light, I don't need to.

However it's not me stating that power is limited in the vrs as is noted in many reviews of the Enyaq vrs pre23 that full power is only available in limited conditions and when the battery has charged to at least 88%. I don't doubt that the lower the battery goes the less performance is available. Thus the further you travel the less performance the slower you are forced to drive, which in turn can also be affected by the ambient conditions also. Not that pre my24 versions were that quick anyway.

At least the Enyaq coupe is one of the better looking ev's than other suv abominations that are available...
As an actual owner of the Enyaq (and not a two week, or even "long term" reviewer), I can hand on heart say this is nonsense. Even if it it does restrict full performance in some way, it is almost completely undiscernible from whatever "full performance" is. At the weekend, right down to 11pc charge, the car was delivering beyond satisfactory performance on the motorway when accelerating to join, or overtake. The only time I have felt the car purposefully restrict performance is when charge is below 10pc.
 
I can only go on what I've read in reviews, but do you have a my23 version or a my24? As they completely changed the power outputs, thus the performance between the two models. I was actually going to buy a 2023 coupe sportline 80 as the salesperson was telling me it could all be updated OTA, however he rang me just before I was going to sign the paperwork that in fact they couldn't. So no deal as the car was far to slow to what I'm used to.
I have also been following forums of other EV's and they've been quoting similar experiences. They go to overtake and the power is just not there because of the battery levels.
I ordered it in 2022 and it arrive in June 2023, so I assume it is a 2023 model. It is not the latest variant, which has the 175kw charger. However, be mindful that the VRS wasn't available as an option until 2022/3 so there isn't a gen coupe before that. I can't comment for the lower spec models, although I have read about the OTA thing before. I don't have that issue, my OTA updates work, however, that isn't a generation thing, it's a spec and model variance thing.
 
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£20K depreciation in one year. I just can not get my head around that loss.

My parents saved their entire life to have enough spare to get a £23K campervan in their old age.
Yep, but I always then ask myself what car would I have driven around in for one year that cost £20k (that I would actually want and was in any way comparable), new, that would also incur depreciation (although at a lesser rate). It's best to think of depreciation as a percentage of cost, rather than a figure. If we take that to be 35pc in my example, then most likely any £20k new car I had desired would have depreciated by a similar amount (ie, now worth about £13.5k)

Also, for me, high depreciation is a good thing as this car was purchased through my LTD company. That means I got 100pc of my corporation tax liability back (of the value of the car - so, 19pc of £55k), which I then used as the deposit. When I "sell" the car, assuming it's to me, I will pay corporation tax on whatever it is worth (fair market value).
 
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There are two generations of the vrs in the uk, the first, my23 had 295ps output and 459Nm torque.The my24 spec had 340ps and 460Nm. All the Enyaq Coupe's had tweaks to the power train. The Top Gear review described the vrs as "The vRS, however, is curiously unsatisfying. Because despite the promise of the performance badge it's a car that just doesn't want to be pushed. Flooring the accelerator pedal in the sportiest of drive modes leaves you feeling like you're on a roller coaster, thanks to all that torque on tap. But overall it's a fairly lame".

Performance aside the styling of the Enyaq is far more interesting than some of the hideous EV's currently on the market and is still my choice, unless something else in the future comes along, once I've ended the term of my replacement M235i in two years time. There is a facelift in the near future coming of the Enyaq and I'm hoping they up the anti in terms of interior trim quality as it currently cannot match my BMW that is cheaper than the entry level edition version of the Skoda with the same equipment.
Exactly, two models. You were referring to a pre 23 model. There is no such thing. The Enyaq is older than that though, and other older models may well suck and providing full power all the time. The VRS doesn't suffer from that, as I say, at least not noticeably. Furthermore, although I have been keeping a close eye on the Top Gear review(s) their long term review is swapped between three different journalists, and they've all said something different about it. Sure, it's no rocket ship, but the way it delivers power is more than anybody would realistically conceive as dull or "lame".
 
I know how far back the ugly SUV goes, however we are in a thread about the coupe and I'm comparing the my23 vrs coupe with the my24 version, they are different in their powertrain setups and software.
Look if you're happy and contented with the performance of your car that's fine but I wouldn't be.
Even though an Enyaq Coupe is on my shortlist it would never be a vrs because, as the reviews have clearly pointed out, at over £54k they offer little benefit over a current 85 version and certainly the vrs is not anyway near my current vehicle that costs thousands less.
So be happy and enjoy!
I'm not sure where your wires are crossed, but you entered the thread and mentioned a pre23 VRS, specifically. They don't exist. You then mentioned that Enyaqs don't provide full power throughout their charge capacity. As I say, that "might" be the case in other models, but I have failed to ever notice it in my VRS unless below 10pc remaining. So, I'm not sure how you can not be content with a car you either haven't driven, or haven't driven long enough to appreciate that whatever you've read or heard (from forums or poor journalism) is incorrect. In addition, although the my24 VRS has changes to power, battery and charge, it is not a significant enough upgrade to spot a noticeable difference. Even though it is touted as being a second quicker to 60(62), the way these cars deliver that power in such a linear format, you wouldn't know.
 
When you say you get 270 miles max, is that from 80% or 100% charge? Do manufacturers / I wish manufacturers would list the range of the car based on the recommended 80% typical charge.

Also how was the charging experience for the 10 times you were away from home (assuming public chargers?)
100pc. 80pc you're looking at 230 ish

Out of the ten or so times I've had to charge publicly, I've had issues twice, but never been stranded. The average charge speed of the car publicly has been 57kW (I'm not including the council owned 7kW chargers which were free at work).
 
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