Poll: Scholes or Lampard?

Indie · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:27

Gilly said:
You simply don't start that many games in a row in the best side in the country, if not the world, without being an exceptionally good player.

Indeed this is true... but look at the players that play around him, Essien ... one of the best midfielders in the world if you ask me, the class is from him, Lampard reaps the Glory (or the defenders left shin-pad)

Gilly · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:28

I don't even rate Essien that much. He's not a patch on Lamps. He's stronger and possibly quicker, he's certainly dirtier, but thats about it.

Red and White · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:28

Gilly said:
He's taken poor penalties recently, granted, but he can certainly tackle better than Scholes and he's a great goal-getter too. He's had a bad run of form and doesn't look himself but it'll come back.

He's a great passer of the ball and his positional sense hasn't left him either.

i'll give you tackling even in his hay day scholes never quite got the hang of that one

dont get me wrong i think lamps is a better player now, but in their prime scholes was. at the minute i think scholes is heading back to his old best and frank is heading the other way. Scholes could still do a job for England i think. Frank needs benching at the minute. (some slight contradictions in there but i think you get what i mean

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Jose Morinho cant exactly drop him now either after his little temper tantrum.

fozzybear · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:29

Gilly said:
The argument is whether Lamps was better than Scholes was when both playing at the top of their game.

Even below his peak, Scholes is still marginally the better.

Gilly · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:29

fozzybear said:
Even below his peak, Scholes is still marginally the better.

That doesn't make him a god in comparison though

Red and White · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:30

Gilly said:
That doesn't make him a god in comparison though

if either of them are gods then what does that make Stevie G??

Badboy2k3 · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:31

Gilly said:
lol, behave. The guy isn't fit to lace Lamps's boots any more. The argument is whether Lamps was better than Scholes was when both playing at the top of their game.

Well thats a matter of opinion, watching Scholes this season shows how much we missed his class in Midfield. It's no suprise people are wanting the guy to come out of retirement fro England (Terry V).

Personally I feel Scholes shot and his passing are greater than Lampards and his first touch is more "Nautural". His vision (even with his dodgy eye) is awsome no doubting that, he keeps the midfield ticking!

Gilly · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:32

Clerkin said:
if either of them are gods then what does that make Stevie G??

In an attacking sense, at the top of all three of their respective games, about the same

Red and White · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:34

Gilly said:
In an attacking sense, at the top of all three of their respective games, about the same

seriously?

i think Gerrard is heads and shoulders above them both in an attacking sense. his passing and shooting are miles better and the runs he makes and positions he gets into are unbelievable.

Indie · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:34

WushuMaster said:
I suppose Lampard is the better all rounder, he has more to his game. But the question here is who is the better AM and I would say that's Scholes. The Problem I feel for Lampard however though is that okay, he is a very good player, but he's overatted and there are better attackers than him, better DM's then him and better all rounders than him. I think that Chelsea are getting the best out of him precisely because they play him as one midfielder out of three where he is not expected to have primary defensive duties or primary attacking duties.

This man has sence *pats head*

Gilly · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:36

Clerkin said:
seriously?

i think Gerrard is heads and shoulders above them both in an attacking sense. his passing and shooting are miles better and the runs he makes and positions he gets into are unbelievable.

Yup, seriously. I don't believe his goal return was ever up there with Lamps or Scholes. He's a better passer of the ball but he insist on playing daft hollywood passes, I think he played alongside Beckham for too long

He's a great player, don't get me wrong, but coming from deep and playing in a free role, not as an AMC.

Indie · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:38

Gilly said:
I don't even rate Essien that much. He's not a patch on Lamps. He's stronger and possibly quicker, he's certainly dirtier, but thats about it.

how dirty a player means nothing in modern football.... as the whole Dutch team portrayed...

Red and White · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:40

Gerrard, Steven (Liverpool, 2000-present) 10 in 50 games
Lampard, Frank jnr. (Chelsea, 1999-present) 12 in 48 games
Scholes, Paul (Manchester United, 1997-present) 14 in 66 games

not a lot of difference in goals in internationals

i just think Gerrard has more influence and would be a bigger miss if he was out.

Badboy2k3 · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:43

Clerkin said:
Gerrard, Steven (Liverpool, 2000-present) 10 in 50 games
Lampard, Frank jnr. (Chelsea, 1999-present) 12 in 48 games
Scholes, Paul (Manchester United, 1997-present) 14 in 66 games

not a lot of difference in goals in internationals

i just think Gerrard has more influence and would be a bigger miss if he was out.

But look at Lampard goals compared to Scholes/Gerrards they are all flukey deflections, he can never hit the ball as cleanly and with such technique like Scholes and Gerrard IMO

Indie · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:45

Gilly said:
Yup, seriously. I don't believe his goal return was ever up there with Lamps or Scholes. He's a better passer of the ball but he insist on playing daft hollywood passes, I think he played alongside Beckham for too long

He's a great player, don't get me wrong, but coming from deep and playing in a free role, not as an AMC.

oh shush!
at least the ''daft hollywood passes'' work for him... you try passing a ball 1 side of the pitch to the other, pinpoint it onto a players foot... its damn difficult (its every wingers dream to have a ball like that/being able to do it) you dont see lampard doing that! Beckham is quality, havnt a clue why hes been dropped from the england side... england will never be top competitors for WC again imo, unless we get very lucky!

Italy for the winnar!!!!!

Gilly · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:50

Clerkin said:
not a lot of difference in goals in internationals

Scholes was off form for the last 4 years of internationals he took part in, Lamps has been off the boil for a while now too, certainly since before the WC.

Clerkin said:
i just think Gerrard has more influence and would be a bigger miss if he was out.

Absolutely, but he doesn't play AMC

Indie · 21 Sep 2006 at 12:00

Lampard doesnt play... nevermind about positions!

Gilly · 21 Sep 2006 at 12:02

Enough eh, you've obviously made your mind up about him, we don't need to hear the same opinion again and again, however funny and unfounded

Indie · 21 Sep 2006 at 12:06

Gilly said:
Enough eh, you've obviously made your mind up about him, we don't need to hear the same opinion again and again, however funny and unfounded

well shush then as you obviously have aswell... it takes two baby

Gilly · 21 Sep 2006 at 12:10

Please stop shushing me. My comments can be backed up by facts

Poll: Scholes or Lampard?

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