[science] 87% of young offenders have history of traumatic brain injury

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Interesting research from Queens University
https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/health/almost-90-northern-irelands-young-14672715

Dr Linden said: “Our work showed 87% of young (18-24) male offenders in Northern Ireland have had some degree of brain injury.

“These injuries have occurred during childhood or adolescence and many of these young men fail to fully develop regions of the brain which govern behaviour, understanding the consequences of their actions and the regulation of behaviour.
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Assuming this extrapolates beyond Northern Ireland (intuitively, you would think it would), does this affect how society should view those who fall into crime at a young age? Is the 'choice' to commit crimes less of a choice than you might necessarily think, and more of a biological impulse. Does that mean such behaviour should be treated as an illness, for which treatment should be offered, rather than as something deserving of punishment?

Further articles, suggesting the same link:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19998710
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11718241
 
cheesyboy said:
Interesting research from Queens University
https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/health/almost-90-northern-irelands-young-14672715



Assuming this extrapolates beyond Northern Ireland (intuitively, you would think it would), does this affect how society should view those who fall into crime at a young age? Is the 'choice' to commit crimes less of a choice than you might necessarily think, and more of a biological impulse. Does that mean such behaviour should be treated as an illness, for which treatment should be offered, rather than as something deserving of punishment?

Further articles, suggesting the same link:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19998710
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11718241
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they didn't need a scientific study, i live in northern ireland and can confirm most young men now are brain damaged, even the none crime commiting ones! :eek:
 
wolfie138 said:
wtf is going on over there that results in 90% of the male population getting brain injuries?
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Think you misread - maybe you have a brain injury ? :D

Nearly 90% of young offenders have a brain injury. it doesn't specify the general population, but the implication (and what you would expect) is that the brain injury % is significantly lower.
 
cheesyboy said:
does this affect how society should view those who fall into crime at a young age? Is the 'choice' to commit crimes less of a choice than you might necessarily think, and more of a biological impulse
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To me it sounds more like it hinders the ability for critical thinking instead of being a biological impulse.
 
The Running Man said:
So what we are saying is that rehabilitation won't help, and lenient first and second sentences won't help?

Lock them up for longer?
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That seems a bit of a leap. Certainly there's nothing in the article to suggest the research found that anything in particular will or wont work.

It's more a starting point: if the behaviour is not a 'choice' but a result of, in effect, a disability, should we then try to begin with the intention to treat rather than punish?
 
cheesyboy said:
That seems a bit of a leap. Certainly there's nothing in the article to suggest the research found that anything in particular will or wont work.

It's more a starting point: if the behaviour is not a 'choice' but a result of, in effect, a disability, should we then try to begin with the intention to treat rather than punish?
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so we drug them?
 
Is this going yo be the new "get out of gaol" card? My mum dropped me out of the cot, or I fell off the swing? I am also wondering if this guy has checked to see how many none offenders are around that his testing method considers to be "brain damaged"?
 
Surely if they are informed that they are likely to commit criminal acts because of their brain condition the awareness alone gives them an insight into why they may have certain impulsive feelings.

A bit like mindfulness they should be able to learn to identify these feelings and behaviours so their conscious mind can stop it.
 
So, Most Criminals are fundamentally broken (For whatever reason)

#1 Make more effort to prevent the breakage from happening in the first place (Good!)

#2 Permanently remove the broken people from society so they can no longer harm other people (Three strikes, etc, also Good)


Are all ****** Broken at birth? Perhaps the Austrian corporal had a point!
 
This is a bit like the suggestion that leaded petrol caused us to be a more violent society.

Purely from the headline though, I'm a little dubious about the conclusions.

What is their cut-off level for considering someone to have had a brain injury? What is the percentage, using that same cut-off, in a similar population of non-offenders?
 
are we sure that the criminality of character is as a result of the traumatic brain injury rather than the other way around.

ie the same factors that provide criminality in kids aren't the cause of them taking part in sports/pranks/other activities that are highly physical and often result in traumatic head injury?
 
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