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Scrypt mining gold rush finally ends

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We got confirmation from a few big e-tailers that the Scrypt gold rush is over, sooner than many expected.

The altcoin craze started late last year, as cryptocurrency lovers started mining huge amounts of litecoin, dogecoin and other Scrypt-based cryptocurrencies. It took off toward the end of the year and now in early April we can confirm that the mania is coming to an end.

The unexpected spike in demand caused periodic shortages of Tahiti and Hawaii based Radeons, which were by far the most popular GPUs for Scrypt mining. As demand outstripped supply, we saw some price gauging, too.


The rise and fall of GPU mining

Cryptocurrency mining turned out to be very profitable for some individuals and hardware makers. We saw the same thing with bitcoin a couple of years ago, but it was much smaller at the time. Since then bitcoin miners migrated to powerful ASICs, rendering GPU mining rigs obsolete and uncompetitive.

Bitcoin uses the SHA-256 algorithm and there are already a number of different ASICs designed to hash much faster than any GPU would - and to use much less power in the process. Scrypt was designed specifically to be ASIC-resistant, so many bitcoin miners whose old GPU mining rigs were mothballed following the transition to ASICs simply chose to reuse their old hardware to mine Scrypt altcoins, such as litecoin and the meme-inspired dogecoin.


Many others joined the craze and bought heaps of Tahiti cards. They then moved to Hawaii-based R9 290 and R9 290X cards, causing shortages of both. Retailers and distributors told us that some people were buying them by the dozen, which is not usually the case as most gamers and enthusiasts buy one or two cards. After all these things don't come cheap and a Crossfire rig with two Hawaii cards is more than enough for practically any gamer.

However, it turns out that ASIC-proof Scrypt algorithm can be cracked using more elaborate ASICs. The first Scrypt ASICs are coming to market in a matter of months. KnCMiner and Alpha Technology appear to be leading the way. For example, KnCMiner is currently taking preorders for its $9,995 Titan miner, which promises to deliver 250GH/s while using less than 1000W. The R9 290X maxes out at about 1GH/s. As for power consumption - do the math.

As a result most miners have stopped buying Radeons.


Possible fallout for AMD and AIBs

Nvidia was concerned by the mining craze as it allowed AMD to sell more R290X and 290 cards than expected. When the cards were designed and introduced nobody was expecting such a spike in demand, as mining was always a relatively small phenomenon given AMD's overall volume. Once people figured out that they could buy a heap of Radeons that would practically pay for themselves in a matter of weeks, it all went wrong.

You'd think that AMD would be laughing all the way to the bank, but it's not that simple.

We were informed of a potential problem with these cards as our industry sources raised concerns that some of them might start dying and RMA earlier than they should, which might be bad news for AMD and its add-in-board partners.

When AMD and Nvidia design a high-end graphics card, they don’t expect it to run under full load for more than a few hours a day. Even diehard gamers have to eat, sleep and work, so they can't run their cards under full load for more than six to eight hours a day. Even professional cards aren't designed to run at full load all the time.

However, miner cards were running at the highest possible load 24/7 and in many cases they were overclocked. Our educated guess and some basic mathematics are telling us that these cards might be meeting their maker much sooner than their owners expect.


Watch out for second-hand mining gear

RMA (Return Merchandise Authorization) probably won’t apply to some of these cards, as manufacturers usually do not accept abused cards that have marks of overheating or other forms of abuse. But once again it's not that simple.

That dark side of GPU mining will probably become evident in the second hand market. Tens of thousands of Tahiti- and Hawaii-based cards will soon be rendered obsolete in their GPU mining role. Miners will have no use for them and if someone happens to have ten or twenty pricey cards that can't make money, chances are they will unload them on eBay or somewhere else. After months of running under full load and a hefty overclock, these bargain cards may prove to be lemons, so please watch out for them.

If you see a seller who is unloading more than one or two high-end Radeons, chances are the cards were indeed used in Scrypt mining rigs. They will probably go cheap, but even if they are still covered by warranties, it is probably best to stay away from them and avoid possible RMA issues.

Basically if you are in the market for used Radeon on the cheap, buy it from a gamer, not a miner.

Scrypt GPU mining will soon be a thing of the past. It remains to be seen whether a different ASIC-proof mining craze will happen again, but for the time being the worst is over.

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My 290s have been running for a few months, 24/7 with fans on 95% aswell as desk fans blowing on them and temps have never (note I say never) gone above 70 degrees.

I think you have just made their point for them.

I only benched mine on air for a few hours with the fans at maximum and they did not give me the impression that they would last long flat out.
 
Why not?

So you'd rather a fan run at slower speeds and the card be hotter? Not sure I agree with that tbh

No, I put waterblocks on mine.

What I am saying is the reference cooler running flat out 24/7 does not give me or my ears the impression that it will last long.
 
So you're basing your opinion on the fact that the stock cooler sounds a bit rough?

Those coolers were never designed to run 24/7 @95% for months on end.

Even the most dedicated AMD user can not game for that long and endure that much noise.
 
Whilst I defend mining in general, this is a statement I can agree with, however there is logic behind their purchases.

Bitcoin was nothing. Early adopters were getting thousands of coins every day on a couple of GPUs, and look what happened to that. It's that hope that spurred people on to buy huge GPU farms and mine. Unfortunately it didn't all go as well, so many folks are sat with cards they don't want to use (I'm still mining, this whole "gpu mining is dead" thing is greatly exaggerated).

The problem arises when people went into debt for these rigs. In some cases, 10 grand or more. These aren't rich folks either, just your average joe looking for a quick buck. For those guys, this dip represents an extremely painful time at the moment as they're stuck with interest rates and thousands of pounds of debt. Whilst I feel for these guys, it was a silly move to jump into debt in what is ultimately a very optimistic gamble.

Personally I have a few cards still mining. These ASICs coming soon are just a big scare. Coin devs are moving onto other stuff which evades asics and I'm still not spending anything I can't afford to write off, so if it makes a buck or two then great, if not, meh.

I own 10 AMD GPUs and have never mined on any of them.
 
Yeah it can't. It's hardware limited. AS soon as it hits 95 degrees it increases fan speed to cool it down. It increases the fanspeed to whatever is set in the overdrive settings. Lets say you have it in uber mode for the 290x, it increases fan speed to 55% when it reaches that speed and if it still needs to cool down then it throttles performance.

I suspect that when the 290s are used in 3 and 4 way setups it is possible to get them above 94c even if throttling kicks in due to the temps overrunning.

I have not tested this myself and I don't think I want to try.
 
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