Second Car questions

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Hi There,

I'm in the process of working out my sums regard a new job I've been offered.

The good news is, it is relatively close. The bad news is, it is still a 70 mile each day commute. My current commute is a 3 mile cycle ride, so I'm going from zero commute costs to significantly more.

My crude maths suggests that will be circa £600 PCM in fuel assuming my LR manages to average 16MPG (£578.50 to be precise). I'm confident I'd get more than 16MPG as most of the journey is on a dual carriageway, but I need to allow for traffic etc so I've just gone for my long term average to date. I'd say the route is 60% NSL Dual Carridgeway, and then 40% NSL country lanes with the occasional jaunt through a 30mpg village. I might squeeze 20MPG average, but that isn't proven.

So. I did some sums for at which point it actually makes sense to get a second car. I think for it to be worthwhile there needs to be a significant increase in fuel economy (to about 50 ish would be brilliant, but absolutely nothing less than 40). To complicate things, we are looking to buy our first home (which hopefully will be closer !) so we don't have £5-10k to spend. The outlay needs to make sense, so I don't want something unreliable, but equally, I want to keep expenditure to a minimum. £2.5k tops really.

It will just be a tool to get to work, so I'm not hugely worried about something that has huge street cred, I just want reliability, decent fuel economy, and ideally, relatively relaxed to spend 2 hours a day. I'd prefer a hatch, even an estate, it needs ISOFIX so we can use it other than just as a work tool to gain some extra value, and 5 doors would be ace but not essential.

It would be nice if it had 'some' driving dynamics. I'd considered something like a Fiat Panda 100HP, as even with high miles they seem to command a decent price, and Evo seem to love them. However, I've got none anywhere near me, and I don't want to travel 80 miles to get a cheap car for work.

I don't think a diesel makes sense at this price point as the reliability will be a huge risk. A 'simple' N/A Petrol would be great, but I know by saying that, I'm restricting my choice to smaller vehicles to achieve the MPG. I know a lot of people would find it hell to sit in a car like that, but the place we are looking to move to is less than half the distance. Incidentally, even after the move a second car still makes financial sense.

So, TLDR:

- Need a second car
- Must have ISOFIX for our little boys seat
- Hatchback/Estate highly preferred
- 5 Doors much preferred for ease of use
- Petrol or Diesel, but must be able to achieve a decent MPG. I think the bare minimum over the commute needs to be 40MPG or else it gets to a point where running two cars doesn't make sense.
- Budget of no more than £2500.

OCUK... help?
 
Yeah. I know. Which one would you get ?

There is a dirt cheap 2.5 v6 zetec s hatch at work that's tempting, but I doubt I'd better 30mpg on the run to work which makes little sense then.
 
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To achieve 40-50mpg on a mixed daily commute with your budget and without driving something the size of a shoe, which will be horrible for that mileage, you're probably going to need a diesel.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201403262830240

I might suggest something like that. It won't be fast but the old 1.9 TDIs are reliable engines and you're getting better VFM than if you try to buy a similar Golf.

Or if you want something a bit more spacious:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201403152545333

It's my understanding that these cars are generally pretty reliable, although if someone knows different then please correct me!


A 1.6 petrol Focus or 2.0 Mondeo would possibly also fit the bill, but I would probably choose one of the above cars over the Focus.
 
Scared or scarred? or both?:p

Yeah it's proving difficult though. There's only 47 for sale in the whole of the Uk at the minute and most of them are either overpriced, have rusty arches or ripped roofs.
 
LPG the current car?

you will nearly half the fuel costs, but you wont have the cost of initial purchase of another car, 2nd tax, 2nd insurance...

you could LPG it for half of your car budget.
 
anything in the jetta, golf, passat, seat range with the 1.9 TDI engine should be perfect.
with motorway driving i would expect 55-60mpg without trying to much.
 
LPG the current car?

you will nearly half the fuel costs, but you wont have the cost of initial purchase of another car, 2nd tax, 2nd insurance...

you could LPG it for half of your car budget.

When I looked at Discovery 3 4.4 V8 Petrols with LPG, I discounted all of them.

Illogical, but plenty of other people will do the same to me. Plus, I like the idea of being able to use the Channel Tunnel....
 
VW Bora 1.9 TDI 130
Skoda Superb 1.9 TDI 130
VW Passat 1.9 TDI 130

You get the idea :p

VAG PD TDI 130 is a very solid engine.
 
Got 59mpg from my 1.4 civic. Felt like I had been gang raped by the end of the journey though.

Still it saved me 40-50quid rather than using the Mondeo.
 
I was in a similar position, my main car averaged mid 20's and i do 80 miles a day so i worked out i'd be cheaper to have a 2nd car.

Toyota Yaris 1.3 would be my sugestion, something like this: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201403162559981

50mpg and hilariously cheap parts. I have the 1.4 diesel version myself and i've loved it for the last 35k i've done in it, i took the gamble on the diesel as so far it's paid off as the only diesel related expense i'd had over normal servicing is one of the injector clips breaking which cost less than £5 from toyota. They also handle pretty well for what they are, i've had a lot of fun in mine as there's a lot of front end grip (as long as you have decent tyres) so you can really throw it around.

Some will insist for doing more then 28.3 miles a day it MUST be in a Mondeo size car but it depends where your priorities lie. I've been perfectly happy with my little econobox.
 
Get a BMW 318 Touring

I had one recently and it was a damn good little car, ISOFIX, economical, good chassis, nice to drive, well built, cruise control, digital climate, electric windows, leather interior, etc. What more could someone want from a 2nd car than one of these? :) Complimented my Range Rover perfectly. Circumstances meant it became surplus to requirements but i'd absolutely recommend one with how cheap yet thoroughly competent they are.
 
Doesn't it have chocolate camshafts ?
Is this an issue that's arisen recently? I hadn't heard of it when I my PD, but I haven't had one for almost 4 years now.

Get a BMW 318 Touring

I had one recently and it was a damn good little car, ISOFIX, economical, good chassis, nice to drive, well built, cruise control, digital climate, electric windows, leather interior, etc. What more could someone want from a 2nd car than one of these? :) Complimented my Range Rover perfectly. Circumstances meant it became surplus to requirements but i'd absolutely recommend one with how cheap yet thoroughly competent they are.
E46 or E90?
 
LPG the current car?

you will nearly half the fuel costs, but you wont have the cost of initial purchase of another car, 2nd tax, 2nd insurance...

you could LPG it for half of your car budget.

Ive thought about this with regards to my V8 Rangie, i am not totally convinced though. LPG seems to be 80ppl with a significant economy hit over petrol. I worked it back to LPG's equivalent cost being >£1ppl.

With a large install cost it would surely take an age to repay with a <30ppl differential?
 
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