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So tonight I go out with my mate for a few drinks & a bit of a laugh. Work our way through a few pubs then head to our local rock club, so we are having a good time & then decide to go for a smoke.
So we head out and spark up a smoke so we were discussing MW2 and then some guy comes up to my mate & says “you staring at my sister your making her feel unconformable” now this girl was behide my mate so unless hes got eyes on the back of his head....
So he goes on the usual rant up what would you do family and all blah blah blah.

my mate is a total passivest never been in a fight in his life & he trys to reason with bloke, I start up conversion with his friends (1 guy 2girls including his “sister” who he kisses in a non sisterly way) asking whats going on & they say don’t worry hes pilled of his face his friends seem friendly enough with 1 girl complimented me repeatedly on my accent)

Mean while my friends attempt to reason with aren’t going to well so in order to alleviate the situation I tell him to go inside when he trys to this guys grabs him so I pull them apart & my friend proceeds inside. now as this was right infront of the bouncers they believe me to be with the aggressor at frist & wont let me back in so i clear of for a smoke until this guys gets bored and leaves 15minutes later he still there ranting at the bouncers demanding they let him in. My friend not being brightest when it comes to this sort of thing comes out again (in order to check that am ok).

So this guy starts on my friend again so we walk off then the aggressor & friends proceed after us, I tell my mate to legg it & I turn around to confront them . The aggressor says where’s your mate gone am like don’t know he legged it that way hes demands I get him back here ring him etc & simple say hes gone now, & proceed to walk of my way is block by one of the girls (aka his sister) & the aggressor, I decide to cross the street upon which am hit on the back of the head by the other girl (aka miss compliment) I carry on across the street they follow the aggressor then hits me in the back at which point I decide to run (not my usual response but was forced to because of past circumstances) So I legg it up the road he follows, I try to jump into a bar & bouncers says its closed, I quickly tell them that theres some guy after me, the aggressor jumps on my back at which point the bouncer says “your on cctv you cant touch him” at which point the aggressor says to me “you got lucky” & walks off.

I thank the bouncers & proceed in the opposite direction I phone my mate & tell him to go back to the club (the aggressors where from the club next door) so he heads back & I take the long way back & meet up with him & he we try to carry on our night.

So this got me thinking what on earth can you do?

We tried reasoning FAILED

We tried walking away FAILED

We tried running away FAILED intervention of bouncers prevented something happening.

Now ordinarily I would have defended myself physically but a few weeks previous me & some other friends were assaulted when leaving a club for no reason ( apart from maybe our nationality) we defended & incapacitated the targets until the police arrive .

The police treat both parties equally and issue Section 5 public order offences aka £80 fine(am told I can charge them with assault & we spend a night in the cells & then take them to court, but this is of coarse unreasonable beside an £80 fine) & were told if this happens again then we face criminal records as a student soon to be seeking employment that’s the last thing I want.

So i defend myself I get a fine or a criminal record
& no other way works

So what on earth are you meant to do?

Not go out at all?
 
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You got away from the argument, forget about it.

Police with no witness who is neutral have to treat all as potential perps until proven otherwise, they were not there when it started and like you said about your friend, 'dont have eyes in the backs of they're heads.
 
Sounds like you should've stayed at the original place, told the bouncers to keep an eye on this guy. He probably would've gotten bored and gone off eventually. There's nothing you can do, he was pilled up and wasn't going to see reason, so there's no point trying. All you can do is make sure you let as many people as possible see it all going down, so that if he does attack and you're forced to respond, you will have a tonne of witnesses to back you up.
Moving away and ending up on the run was a bad move imo, but I wasn't there so I can't really comment :)
 
They're punching you......and you're doing nothing.

Have some dignity man, floor 'em.

Nevermind what the police might or might not do, they're a useless bunch anyway so sort it yourself.
 
[TW]Fox;15364336 said:
Typical British night out
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You really think so? I must have absolutely atypical British nights out and be exceedingly lucky when I'm going out since I've probably only seen 5-10 fights in all the time I've been going out which if you average it out across the number of times I've been out is negligible. There is also the possibility that I'm extremely unobservant of that sort of thing but you'd think that sometimes I simply couldn't avoid it.
 
unfortunately that's one of the characteristics of modern day Britain!

Rule Britannia and it's infestation of teenage pregnancies and chav mofo's with their "drug" habits!
 
Morba said:
should have gone when your mate did instead of trying to reason.
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He can’t run that fast so had to stall them & I know better than to try to reason with drunks he was the one trying & failing at that.
Deific said:
They're punching you......and you're doing nothing.

Have some dignity man, floor 'em.

Nevermind what the police might or might not do, they're a useless bunch anyway so sort it yourself.
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There’s nothing I would rather do but there’s 2 of them 1 of me & 2 girls who despite their actions I would be unwilling to hit.
There’s cctv everywhere so police would show up,& I have a future to look out for unlike my aggressors

B&W said:
beat em up where theres no cameras or witnesses. beat em hard.
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I considered this but manc city centre is a maze of cctv & then it would still be 2 v 1 ( & 2 girls)& there pilled of their face.
 
There may be two but even if you're not much of a fighter, they're pilled and drunk - they aren't goin to be able to do much. And as for cctv, that would have allowed you to hit them back without repecussion because it would have been watched back and seen that you're defending yourself.
 
Reckon I would have thumped the bloke and given the girl a swift kick in the ****. I'm an idiot when it comes to keeping my head in situations like that though so you probably did the best thing.

Totally unrelated but last night I saw a group of deaf folk having a massive argument in sign language which lead on to a huge deaf street brawl. Shouldn't laugh, but oh how I did!
 
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